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Old 11-11-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Selecting a stronger candidate will not cut it, the GOP has no platform other than their warped religious mindset. You could run jesus on that platform and you would still lose. This is the whole implosion of the R-W as you have injected religion into politics so much you cannot tell the difference anymore. Not only are you turning off the youth with this archaic thinking and fairy tales, you are exacting the same in the political arena.

The economy is FUBAR and global but the GOP are the ones that run on entitlement except that that entitlement is for the whites only. Look at your base, you're a bunch of whiney whities and you are EXACTLY like the right wingnuts were here in SA in the late 80s and an early 90s.

The idea that you do not have a war on women is NOT reflected in the many statewide new laws passed on the abortion issue. You argue like morons trying to redefine globally accepted science and a precedent that has stood for 40 odd years in RvW. This and the issue regarding SSM is all that rallies your base.

YOU ARE NOT INCLUSIVE at all.

Don't want an abortion, simple don't have one. Don't want to marry a same sex, simple, don't. It is your base that is trying to FORCE their SICK and pervasive morals on society and falsely claiming the US is founded on "xian principles" is a lie. The folk wanting affordable health care and the right to marry whom they love has Eff all to do with anyone.

With the veiled racism that is soo apparent in the GOP base, you folk should be discouraging the population growth of the poor as they also happen to be not white in most cases. Your logic astounds me.

You wish to defund PP because you all think it is your personal tax dollars providing this. Well yes that is what is happening and that is how caring for the needy works and if that is socialism - so be it.

Remember the story from your "good book" about the good Samaritan? See that is the parts the Dems are applying. What is your solution? Pull yourself up by your bootstraps? Even your jesus said you will ALWAYS have the poor with you, buy a clue and read your bible, you may learn something.

The message you send out sound a lot closer to that of WWII Germany where the undesirables were simply exterminated. Is that what you really want?

Was the universal message of liberty

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

Or was it

Abandon hope all ye that enter here?
Great post. And in today's GOP - they function on that last line.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Your fundamental premise is wrong.

This was by no means a "conservative" humiliation or rebuke. For there was very little "conservative" in Mitt Romney. What this was is a very appropriate rejection of Romney's personna and his treasonous Big Business partners for their reckless abandonment of US national interests and major role in bringing this nation to its knees. That's all.

Think this makes us a "progressive" country? Not even close. We just don't like the Gordon Gekkos of the world....not in 1987 and not today.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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dang old rich white guys need to be rounded up and encamped.They did nothing for this country
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:29 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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Thanks so much for telling us how to we should be thinking and choosing our candidates. I am sure, your living and being a person from another country understand how we in our country think. Next time you want to post about how to elect your leaders be sure and do so, then we can tell you what is wrong with S.A. BTW, it might interest you to know, how the liberal media sees things and how they really are, can be very different. For the most part the GOPS are not a bunch of right wing evangilicals, anymore that the left wing are a bunch of say, Atheists...
Then stop telling the world that the POTUS is the leader of the free world. Don't like the opinions of this free world, climb back in you 1950s cocoon. must be really bad if only Pakistan supported your candidate. Something is wrong with your thinking when the rest of the world disagrees with it. Oh BTW, planet USA is a myth and only exists in fundiland.

Short version - suck it up.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:49 PM
 
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Same thing happened to Dems when Bush was elected. Maybe that is the reason some Dems are still hurting from that election and feel this is pay back time like junior high.

I just wish the country would wake up and realize we need to work together if we are to survive.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Your fundamental premise is wrong.

This was by no means a "conservative" humiliation or rebuke. For there was very little "conservative" in Mitt Romney. What this was is a very appropriate rejection of Romney's personna and his treasonous Big Business partners for their reckless abandonment of US national interests and major role in bringing this nation to its knees. That's all.

Think this makes us a "progressive" country? Not even close. We just don't like the Gordon Gekkos of the world....not in 1987 and not today.

HUH?? Latinos with a 4.8 million Obama plurality, were larger than Obama's total popular vote margin.

It was not Gordon Geiko. That did harm him in the summer, but Romney was the man self deported Tuesday night.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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dang old rich white guys need to be rounded up and encamped.They did nothing for this country
Like our founding fathers? LOL
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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And if the Republican party, and the conservative movement, and the conservative media is stuck in a vacuum sealed, door locked, spin cycle of telling each other what makes them feel good, and denying the factual, lived truth of the world
Do you want to discuss the facts like the national debt, the numbers on welfare, the deficits, the unemployment numbers, the record foreclosures, the failure to pass a budget, the downgrading of the debt, the complete failure of a president called Obama?

I think not..
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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That's exactly right. You can't debate real ideas if one side is living on earth and the other side is in fantasy land. FOX news and some conservative pundits really did their viewers, and the country, a disservice when they went on about how the polls were skewed, or how Obama is a dangerous Muslim communist from Kenya, etc. etc. The part that disturbs me the most is that I don't think it was just cold, calulated spin to try to keep up the spirits of the base--I think they really believed it. It's the same kind of thinking that creates huge problems for the campaigns themselves--if you lie, you convince yourself that you're really telling the truth, or that it's ok because you're on the side of the good and the true. The problem is that voters who aren't in your bubble just see a liar. It's a vicious circle.
The problem with this is anybody who doesn't agree with liberalism in any way is living in fantasy land or stuck in 1952. A civil debate cannot be had because liberals know they are right and are unopen to even listening to what the other side has to say. They just immediately call them haters, bigots, racist, nutjobs, etc.

The country has spoken though with young people leading the way. Its not "cool" to be a conservative.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:58 PM
 
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Yes, I'd have to agree. I often find la Maddow annoying, mostly for stylistic reasons. Her point here, though, is spot on.
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