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Old 11-11-2012, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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The popular vote was fairly close but the electoral college was a semi-landslide.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Uh huh. All that money and all that effort and we're right back to where we started; dems have the white house and the senate. The repubs have the house. It's called stalemate. I'm fine with that.
It's actually not a stalement. In 2014, republicans in congress will be defending their shrinking majority while the Dem WH and Senate are safe. If the same electorate that voted Tuesday views congress as continuing to stalemate, they'll throw congress out and you'll get Obama with total control and no election to worry about for his final two years in office. I'm good with that.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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The popular vote was fairly close but the electoral college was a semi-landslide.
3 million + votes isn't really close. 9/10 swing states damn sure isn't close.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:04 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Yet another meme that to me shows the capacity of the left to engage in lunacy is the idea that this was a "landslide" victory.

Pres Obama was re-elected by a popular vote of 50.6% to 47.9% for Romney. 62.1 million votes to 58.8 million for Romney.

The 2004 election of Bush-Cheney vs. Kerry-Edwards was very close to these numbers. W Bush beat Kerry by 50.7 to 48.3, 62 million to 59 million. Nobody I know of called that a "landslide." Everyone, R's and D's alike, characterized it as a continuation of the 50-50, deeply divided nation. What has changed?
It was a big congressional reversal of 2010.
Also, if he were a Republican it would be both a "landslide" and a "mandate" to you.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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No landslide. But it was a mandate.
A decent respect for the outcome of an election never requires free citizens to cower before a temporarily dominant majority. There is, on the contrary, an obligation to stay engaged in a battle that, as John Edwards says, rages on.

Begin with the facts: A 51-48 percent victory is not a mandate. Two nearly equal sides are engaged today, as they were on Tuesday, in a long-term struggle to make inroads into the other's patch. The opposition should not crawl into a hole or be silent. A decent respect for the outcome of an election never requires free citizens to cower before a temporarily majority. There is, on the contrary, an obligation to stay engaged in a battle that rages on.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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3 million + votes isn't really close. 9/10 swing states damn sure isn't close.
In a population as large as the U.S 3 million votes is rather close. Look at the percentage of votes. As far as the swing states, some of them such as Virginia and Florida were really close.

I am not denying though that this country has taken a hard turn to the left.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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In a population as large as the U.S 3 million votes is rather close. Look at the percentage of votes. As far as the swing states, some of them such as Virginia and Florida were really close.

I am not denying though that this country has taken a hard turn to the left.
2 were close, 8 were not and calling VA close is a stretch. It's just about 51-48 nationally at last count. That's a big margin in 2012. Either way, it's the swing states that matter and the only one Willard barely hung on to was freaking North Carolina.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:27 PM
 
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The presidency is won by the EC. With that said, it was a beatdown.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:19 AM
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Location: Near Manito
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The presidency is won by the EC. With that said, it was a beatdown.
335-200? Big deal.

Compare Reagan-Mondale, Nixon-McGovern, LBJ-Goldwater. Now THOSE were beatdowns.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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Wait until the final counts are in before committing.
Just saying.
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