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Old 11-12-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Austin
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They were damn lucky to keep control of the House. The only reason they did was because of all the gerrymandering. Even then they lost several seats in the House and in the Senate. Most of the teabaggers that ran (including Allen West) got voted out this time as well.

I guess alienating women, intimidating minorities, legitimizing rapes, and trying to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape or incest didn't fly this time. Neither did proposing tax cuts for the wealthy, disbanding FEMA, saying rape was God's will, or suggesting a woman's body can naturally reject the pregnancies.

Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do to the Koch brothers and other millionaires and billionaires whose money he squandered trying to buy this election. Purging voters, cutting down on early voting, and making people wait in line for 8 hours with a 14-page ballot wasn't very effective, either.

With any luck, let's hope they wake up and realize the 1950's are long over, women make up more than half the population, and minorities make up a larger percentage. You see, mathematics don't lie. Just like Bill Clinton said, you can't cut taxes and expect to pay off the national debt. You also can't expect rich white males to be the majority when the wealthy in fact make up 1% of the population. Grover Norquist must have left his calculator home.

The sooner the GOP realizes there are more women, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, gays, lesbians, transgenders, poor, and working class people than there are rich WASP males, the easier it'll be for them to live in the 21st century and relate to all 315 million and counting Americans rather the wealthiest 400.

Don't be surprised if they don't lose control of the House in 2014 after Obamacare goes into full effect and unemployment is even lower. Women will have as much access to healthcare for the same rates as men. Maybe when the Afghan War is over, the Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Act goes into effect, and Citizens United gets overturned, the hens will really come home to roost. Finally, don't be surprised if your next president or the one after that is a woman.

 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:36 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Redistricting aided both parties, where they're in control. Here in Illinois, the Democrats took 3 U.S. House seats from Democrats ... largely because the districts of the Republican incumbants were changed to favor Democrats who control the state legislature. All is fair in love, and politics.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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Yes the GOP is in big trouble and now the nation is in trouble too. Look at states such as California with one party rule..spending into bankruptcy and oblivion.

Dems will totally rule this country. But their system of unlimited deficit spending is unsustainable. It will eventually lead to the collapse of the system. Think Greece on a much larger scale.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yes the GOP is in big trouble and now the nation is in trouble too. Look at states such as California with one party rule..spending into bankruptcy and oblivion.

Dems will totally rule this country. But their system of unlimited deficit spending is unsustainable. It will eventually lead to the collapse of the system. Think Greece on a much larger scale.
Enumerate major contributors to this deficit spending, so it can be discussed.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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The sooner the GOP realizes there are more women, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, gays, lesbians, transgenders, poor, and working class people than there are rich WASP males, the easier it'll be for them to live in the 21st century and relate to all 315 million and counting Americans rather the wealthiest 400.
The GOP allows EVERYONE the OPPORTUNITY to succeed. The fact that you think these people cant succeed without government says more about how you think about them, than anything the GOP could ever say or do..
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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Enumerate major contributors to this deficit spending, so it can be discussed.
Obamas own budget proposals have record deficits..
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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Enumerate major contributors to this deficit spending, so it can be discussed.
All Dems and moderate Reps have contributed to deficit spending. The deficit has especially increased over the past 4 years in order to pay for social programs. The only politicians who did not contribute to the deficit are the ones who voted against raising the debt ceiling last year...they were all Reps..the tea party types liberals detest the most.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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They were damn lucky to keep control of the House. The only reason they did was because of all the gerrymandering. Even then they lost several seats in the House and in the Senate. Most of the teabaggers that ran (including Allen West) got voted out this time as well.

I guess alienating women, intimidating minorities, legitimizing rapes, and trying to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape or incest didn't fly this time. Neither did proposing tax cuts for the wealthy, disbanding FEMA, saying rape was God's will, or suggesting a woman's body can naturally reject the pregnancies.

Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do to the Koch brothers and other millionaires and billionaires whose money he squandered trying to buy this election. Purging voters, cutting down on early voting, and making people wait in line for 8 hours with a 14-page ballot wasn't very effective, either.

With any luck, let's hope they wake up and realize the 1950's are long over, women make up more than half the population, and minorities make up a larger percentage. You see, mathematics don't lie. Just like Bill Clinton said, you can't cut taxes and expect to pay off the national debt. You also can't expect rich white males to be the majority when the wealthy in fact make up 1% of the population. Grover Norquist must have left his calculator home.

The sooner the GOP realizes there are more women, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, gays, lesbians, transgenders, poor, and working class people than there are rich WASP males, the easier it'll be for them to live in the 21st century and relate to all 315 million and counting Americans rather the wealthiest 400.

Don't be surprised if they don't lose control of the House in 2014 after Obamacare goes into full effect and unemployment is even lower. Women will have as much access to healthcare for the same rates as men. Maybe when the Afghan War is over, the Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Act goes into effect, and Citizens United gets overturned, the hens will really come home to roost. Finally, don't be surprised if your next president or the one after that is a woman.
The GOP needs to ween itself off the Conservative Entertainment Complex. There are too many charlatans making a fortune off of tickling the base's engorged amygdalas. They can't tell fact from opinion.

I didn't really appreciate just how delusional and gullible today's GOP has become, till I heard Romney himself was " shellshocked" that he lost. He didn't even have a concession speech ready, just in case- completely snookered by Rove-Fox-Limbaugh-Morris's view of reality. And a guy with Mitt's judgment wanted to be president?

The GOP is in a similar spot to where the Dems were in 1984- losing the popular vote in 5 out of 6 of the last elections. The Dems responded by marginalizing their far left flank, and broadening their appeal to the electorate by recruiting pro-gun, pro-military faith-friendly candidates.

The GOP needs to do the same thing in reverse. Restore trust in science, embrace the new demography, stop demonizing the opposition, live their faith, but don't impose it on others, stop treating women like brood stock, and extend their aversion to Big Government to people's bedrooms. Otherwise, they're on their way to obscurity.

We need at least two viable parties to make democracy work. Liberal party vs Conservative party is OK- but Liberal Party vs Crazy party? No bueno!
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Yes the GOP is in big trouble and now the nation is in trouble too. Look at states such as California with one party rule..spending into bankruptcy and oblivion.

Dems will totally rule this country. But their system of unlimited deficit spending is unsustainable. It will eventually lead to the collapse of the system. Think Greece on a much larger scale.
Californians voted to tax themselves (rich and poor) to improve their schools, try that in a Republican state.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by Jay F View Post
All Dems and moderate Reps have contributed to deficit spending. The deficit has especially increased over the past 4 years in order to pay for social programs.
What do you think has led to increase in deficits over last 4 years? And are you telling me that there was no deficit issue before then? That it never increased?

But more importantly, answer the question that was asked so I have more than the typical one-line political speak to deal with.
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