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"Obviously there's plenty of soul-searching and blame-giving to go through, but as we hear what the liberal media think about what the right needs to do to improve (how generous of them -- really), could we keep these figures in mind?"
Those four states, with a collective margin of, 406,348 for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.
It's also worth noting how many votes Ron Paul got would have gone to Romney if Paul never ran? Let's not forget that either, Ron Paul could have cost Romney the election since he got at least ~100k write-ins in every battleground state
Obama won by over 3.4 million votes and with over 50% of the votes.
Compare this with past "mandates". In most past elections the victor had close to 50% of the vote:
Winner % of votes:
1960 49.7% Kennedy vs Nixon
1964 61.1% Johnson vs Goldwater
1968 43.4% Nixon vs Humphrey vs Wallace
1972 60.7% Nixon vs McGovern
1976 50.1% Carter vs Ford
1980 50.8% Reagan vs Carter vs Anderson
1984 58.8% Reagan vs Mondale
1988 53.4% Bush vs Dukakis
1992 43.0% Clinton vs Bush vs Perrot
1996 49.2% Clinton vs Dole vs Perrot
2000 47.9% Bush vs Gore
2004 50.7% Bush vs Kerry
2008 52.9% Obama vs McCain
2012 50.6% Obama vs Romney
That is better than the "mandate" Bush was said to have when he won by fewer votes against Kerry.
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed
It's also worth noting how many votes Ron Paul got would have gone to Romney if Paul never ran? Let's not forget that either, Ron Paul could have cost Romney the election since he got at least ~100k write-ins in every battleground state
Damn, Ron Paul is the problem. Republicans, unite (again).
"Obviously there's plenty of soul-searching and blame-giving to go through, but as we hear what the liberal media think about what the right needs to do to improve (how generous of them -- really), could we keep these figures in mind?"
Those four states, with a collective margin of, 406,348 for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.
Oe alos has to look at the final rsults ;wehich was that nothig real wqas gaiby either party as far as staus. It was not 2008but a repeat of the midterm with expceted sittig presdient winningbin close race.thatwas because of the econmy.But looking at the local and state house results it was conitnuing gains for repulbicans. Also the growth states they increased their domiance.With popualtio shiftas the Demnoicrats have to rethink just what the future ocer time willresult in. Thyey are kiddig themselves ig they think that race can amke a difference unles there is a better economy.its as Clinto said in the end .
I'll apply a sports analogy that applies to both but more to Gore than Romney - if you play such a bad game that it comes down to a tie and victory is based on penalty kicks or a ref's call on 1 play, and you lose, then you only have yourself to blame.
Oe alos has to look at the final rsults ;wehich was that nothig real wqas gaiby either party as far as staus. It was not 2008but a repeat of the midterm with expceted sittig presdient winningbin close race.thatwas because of the econmy.But looking at the local and state house results it was conitnuing gains for repulbicans. Also the growth states they increased their domiance.With popualtio shiftas the Demnoicrats have to rethink just what the future ocer time willresult in. Thyey are kiddig themselves ig they think that race can amke a difference unles there is a better economy.its as Clinto said in the end .
More "math you are continuing to tell yourself as a Republican to feel better."
Dems gained in the Senate. Dems gained in the House.
Gerrymandering has unseated Dems who normally would have won. It is a false result.
You are kidding yourself - which is what Republicans do to make themselves feel better.
"Obviously there's plenty of soul-searching and blame-giving to go through, but as we hear what the liberal media think about what the right needs to do to improve (how generous of them -- really), could we keep these figures in mind?"
Those four states, with a collective margin of, 406,348 for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.
So you're telling us that If Romney hand't lost, he would have won? LOL
It's not the margin by which he won, it's the fact that he won decisively in every single demographic that is projected to increase it's share of the electorate in the coming years, and he did it consistently across the country. Black people, Hispanics, Asians, and the gay-friendly... these groups will only increase in electoral influence.
Not to mention he set up a hell of a ground game. If he leaves it in place for 2016 watch out.
Republicans benefited greatly from the gerrymandering of districts in their favor on the congressional level. The slide in congress might have been worse without it.
It's not the margin by which he won, it's the fact that he won decisively in every single demographic that is projected to increase it's share of the electorate in the coming years, and he did it consistently across the country. Black people, Hispanics, Asians, and the gay-friendly... these groups will only increase in electoral influence.
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It kinda went exactly as all the polls had predicted,except the FOX polls that had Romney winning in a landslide, heck even Limbaugh was saying Romney big..
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