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Old 11-13-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I care little about the semantics of why the vote turned out the way it did. I only want to see Obama keep his promises this time around. No whining, no finger pointing, just an economic turnaround without bleeding the middle class.

If at the end of his (Obama) 2nd term we are still at 8% unemployment, $5-6 gas, another 20% added on to COL, higher taxes, and $20+ trillion in debt; even the most diehard liberal (with any sense) will have to admit that he failed. I honestly hope all liberals are able to gloat about more than secular ideologies and false positives in 2016.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:28 PM
 
Location: North America
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I care little about the semantics of why the vote turned out the way it did. I only want to see Obama keep his promises this time around. No whining, no finger pointing, just an economic turnaround without bleeding the middle class.

If at the end of his (Obama) 2nd term we are still at 8% unemployment, $5-6 gas, another 20% added on to COL, higher taxes, and $20+ trillion in debt; even the most diehard liberal (with any sense) will have to admit that he failed. I honestly hope all liberals are able gloat about more than secular ideologies and false positives in 2016.

At least you're honest.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Im just happy he won
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I care little about the semantics of why the vote turned out the way it did. I only want to see Obama keep his promises this time around. No whining, no finger pointing, just an economic turnaround without bleeding the middle class.

If at the end of his (Obama) 2nd term we are still at 8% unemployment, $5-6 gas, another 20% added on to COL, higher taxes, and $20+ trillion in debt; even the most diehard liberal (with any sense) will have to admit that he failed. I honestly hope all liberals are able to gloat about more than secular ideologies and false positives in 2016.
??? still at $5-6 gas??? The price of gas was at $3.02 here on election day. I haven't seen gas anywhere near $5 in four years.

??? another 20% added to COL???? We had two years of deflation, how did the cost of living rise 20% in the last four years?

???? higher taxes??? In the last 4 years what taxes went up and when was this? Didn't taxes go down for almost everyone?

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Old 11-13-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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I thought Medved was actually sane for a Repug, I don't think he will be invited to Thom Hartmann's show anymore after this sore loser and desperate comment.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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I'm moving to Wisconsin and opening a cheese factory for Republicans so they have something to munch on with their whine. At the present post election rate cheese and whine production have reached maximum capacity.
Heck, c'mon up, everybody else has!


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I care little about the semantics of why the vote turned out the way it did. I only want to see Obama keep his promises this time around. No whining, no finger pointing, just an economic turnaround without bleeding the middle class.

If at the end of his (Obama) 2nd term we are still at 8% unemployment, $5-6 gas, another 20% added on to COL, higher taxes, and $20+ trillion in debt; even the most diehard liberal (with any sense) will have to admit that he failed. I honestly hope all liberals are able to gloat about more than secular ideologies and false positives in 2016.
Your post was just bong'd.

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Old 11-13-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: North America
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I thought Medved was actually sane for a Repug, I don't think he will be invited to Thom Hartmann's show anymore after this sore loser and desperate comment.

He's parroting Rove.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I care little about the semantics of why the vote turned out the way it did. I only want to see Obama keep his promises this time around. No whining, no finger pointing, just an economic turnaround without bleeding the middle class.

If at the end of his (Obama) 2nd term we are still at 8% unemployment, $5-6 gas, another 20% added on to COL, higher taxes, and $20+ trillion in debt; even the most diehard liberal (with any sense) will have to admit that he failed. I honestly hope all liberals are able to gloat about more than secular ideologies and false positives in 2016.
Climbing out of a deep hole is always slower and harder than digging it. I too, hope for exactly the same things except for the gas prices- $5.00 gas is inevitable in today's world.
But we dug ourselves a mighty deep hole for over 20 years. Expecting to climb out in 4 was ridiculous, and climbing out in 8 will be hard. We are moving upward, but even though America is still the world's richest and largest economy, we have limited control as to what happens on the rest of the planet.

And the rest of the world may mess up our own recovery in ways no one can predict. That's a lesson we have all observed since the turn of the century. Believing that progress will be smooth is foolish.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I care little about the semantics of why the vote turned out the way it did. I only want to see Obama keep his promises this time around. No whining, no finger pointing, just an economic turnaround without bleeding the middle class.

If at the end of his (Obama) 2nd term we are still at 8% unemployment, $5-6 gas, another 20% added on to COL, higher taxes, and $20+ trillion in debt; even the most diehard liberal (with any sense) will have to admit that he failed. I honestly hope all liberals are able to gloat about more than secular ideologies and false positives in 2016.

Steven I think you already know that most liberals will never admit it, even to themselves. Just take this thread for example.

Medved presents a fairly simply, and I think compelling hypothesis about the election result. Five pages of thread later, only one or two lefty posters come close to thoughtfully discussing it. The most popular response was an argument about the use of "supression," which went on even after I posted a definition from Merriam-Webster. And zero admissions from the left that Team Obama did in fact employ negative campaigning as a deliberate and calculated strategy.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Steven I think you already know that most liberals will never admit it, even to themselves. Just take this thread for example.

Medved presents a fairly simply, and I think compelling hypothesis about the election result. Five pages of thread later, only one or two lefty posters come close to thoughtfully discussing it. The most popular response was an argument about the use of "supression," which went on even after I posted a definition from Merriam-Webster. And zero admissions from the left that Team Obama did in fact employ negative campaigning as a deliberate and calculated strategy.
Dude, the whole idea is a joke. The right spent three times as much as the left did, their ads were just as negative and by the end 99% of the right's ads were negative. Why is it that negative ads only affected voters on the right? Why didn't 3 times the ads from the right have a greater impact on Obama voters????

Time to put the blame where it belongs, your candidate sucked raw eggs and nobody on the right was excited about him.
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