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Old 11-13-2012, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Dude, the whole idea is a joke. The right spent three times as much as the left did, their ads were just as negative and by the end 99% of the right's ads were negative. Why is it that negative ads only affected voters on the right? Why didn't 3 times the ads from the right have a greater impact on Obama voters????

Time to put the blame where it belongs, your candidate sucked raw eggs and nobody on the right was excited about him.
Uh no, the spending was roughly even, with Obama a little ahead.
The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com

Where do you get 'three times?' Link?

Mitt Romney was a good candidate. The polling was virtually tied for the last month of campaign, but Obama prevailed through turnout. Why? Because of the negative campaigning.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Uh no, the spending was roughly even, with Obama a little ahead.
The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com

Where do you get 'three times?' Link?

Mitt Romney was a good candidate. The polling was virtually tied for the last month of campaign, but Obama prevailed through turnout. Why? Because of the negative campaigning.
Oh that Mitt Romney, sacrificial lamb of the mudslinging American campaign tradition. He was the first candidate to run a completely clean campaign, devoid of all negativity toward his opponent, and look where it got him. Why, he is so squeaky-clean, he didn't even mention his opponent's name during the last week of the campaign, did he?
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Oh that Mitt Romney, sacrificial lamb of the mudslinging American campaign tradition. He was the first candidate to run a completely clean campaign, devoid of all negativity toward his opponent, and look where it got him. Why, he is so squeaky-clean, he didn't even mention his opponent's name during the last week of the campaign, did he?
No, but nobody said that. Feel free to continue arguing with yourself if that's what floats your boat.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:28 AM
 
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Just ridiculous. The right-wing is looking more pathetic by the day.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Link/quote from just one ad from Romney that said anything about Obama being Kenyan or Muslim. Really it was only a small handful of people who pushed the birther stuff or the Obama-Muslm stuff. In fact it happens that Michael Medved has been one of the loudest voices all along denouncing birtherism. And other than anonymous postings on the internet, I haven't heard anyone pushing the Muslim nonsense. Straw men. As for "socialist," if the shoe fits, wear it. Many lefties these days are deciding to return to openly and proudly label themselves as "socialist." Why not? The more honesty in political discourse, the better.
If that is the case, they were the loud ones, like Donald Trump. Why didn't you jump in and refute them right here on the board if you "knew" that was not the case? Every other thread has been about one of those or the other, or had at least one of those mentioned in multiple posts. Silence implies consent. If you don't say anything, it is understood that you agree with what is being said.

You obviously don't know many Liberals personally. A half truth is a whole lie.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Gallup polling. They found GOP enthusiasm at 35% in 2008, 51% in 2012.
Gallup Poll: Democratic Enthusiasm Down Sharply From 2008 | Mediaite

Personally though, I wouldn't have even needed the polling. Most of the conservatives I know were much more enthused about voting for Romney than McCain. Romney ran to the right in the primaries and continued running to the right even after he locked up the nomination.
Romney ran as a Libertarian, a Liberal, a Conservative, and a Tea Partier, sometimes in the same day. He's a political chameleon who will say absolutely anything he thinks somebody wants to hear (read: professional lying SOB).

Any enthusiasm was for Romney the "Not Obama". It wasn't the only thing Gallup missed entirely. Look at their polls from the last couple of weeks before the election. Republicans bought in heavily because Gallup went Rasmussen instead of being honest.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:55 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Just ridiculous. The right-wing is looking more pathetic by the day.
Whaddya mean, looking? Don't they have the honor?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The GOP fails, once again, to learn the lessons of this election. Instead of focusing on why the American people rejected them and their ideas at the polls, they blame all the wrong things for their loss. Keep it up. It will guarantee another loss in 2014.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:00 AM
 
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Republicans showing their true colors. When they win it's a mandate from god; when they lose they start stomping their feet and whining, "it's not fair, it's not fair, he took it, it's mine" like petulant children.
Let me guess, you 8 years old during the 2000 election and don't remember it?

You don't remember the "diebold stole ohio" cries from 2004?

If you think any one party has a lock on whining, cheating and all other things irritating or wrong....I have a bridge to sell you.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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Hey guys, Russia and a number of other 2nd world tin-pot strongmen that use serious voting shenanigans love to point at the US as being corrupt blah blah blah because it's deflection when they are invariably called out.

They do it regardless of the US presidents political party, it's nothing new.
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