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Old 11-13-2012, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Into believing that welfare is the reason for the fiscal cliff. If you are gonna spout, try educating yourselves first.
Silly republicans they do no know its the rich white old guys . We do not tax them enough its not fair they are the cliff
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:20 AM
 
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Republicans don't cut spending either. And there is a decidedly sharp tone towards the "poor people that want free stuff" ever since Obama won, actually ever since Romney's 47% remarks came out, which is the basis of my post. Even though a bunch of the 47% is elderly and students and such. Republicans should have went with Paul, dumb republicans would vote for whomever and independents that want spending cut might have gone for him.
spending increases by president:

US Government Spending Increases By President, 1961-2012

it is no wonder that clinton and reagan are looked at more fondly than our other presidents.

let's face it, the FSA did speak in this election and they did vote for MORE of the same-so we deserve what is coming-and ron paul could have never won this group over, EVEN IF HE DID PUT AMERICANS FIRST.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Into believing that welfare is the reason for the fiscal cliff. If you are gonna spout, try educating yourselves first.
Here I am reminded of the excellent video from 2008, "How Obama Got Elected." It's on youtube; I won't bother to link since it's been linked so many times before on CD.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Typical right wing ignorance. Spending actually only went up by an average of 1.6% per year which is the slowest rate of ANY President since Calvin Coolidge. The reason the deficit increased is because spending held steady while revenue went down as the bubble popped.

Facts, they're just never on the side of the right wing nut jobs.
apparently you, like many of the sheeple liberals cant read or understand numbers


from 2008 to present:
defense spending has increased 16%...... 593b to 673b (16% in 4 years or an average of a 4% increase each year)


medicare spending has increase 29%..... 386b to 498b

medicaid spending has increased 44%.... 201b to 299b (*11% a year).....medicare/ciad makes up nearly 850 billion of our spending

ss spending has increased 17% ........ 612B to 719b....by fy2015 it is projected to be 890 billion....for fy2017 breaks the trillion mark 1.007 trillion




dont let FACTS get in your way
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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Typical right wing ignorance. Spending actually only went up by an average of 1.6% per year which is the slowest rate of ANY President since Calvin Coolidge. The reason the deficit increased is because spending held steady while revenue went down as the bubble popped.

Facts, they're just never on the side of the right wing nut jobs.
Typical liberal ignorance. If spending went up 1.6%, and revenue went down, then, wait for it.....

You are spending more than you take it. Which means you're losing money. Which means a deficit. Which means we're all screwed.

I for one can't wait. The faster we collapse, the faster we can move on.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Into believing that welfare is the reason for the fiscal cliff. If you are gonna spout, try educating yourselves first.
Better yet, who cares. Why don't they educate themselves. Oh I forgot, they are too lazy and would rather hate and complain.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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Agreed.

Welfare is the reason Obama was reelected and nothing will be done to rein in spending.
Yea, ask the Obamaphone lady. She will tell you.

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But the point is, why do many of the less informed republicans blame the poor for welfare spending while ignoring defense contractors and other areas such as oil subsides?
Because they are producing. Welfare, all they do is stick their hands out for freebies.. that's why.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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Silly republicans they do no know its the rich white old guys . We do not tax them enough its not fair they are the cliff
Your definition of rich is wrong. Either way, it's set in stone. There will be super rich and there will be poor. Watch out middle class, they use "the poor" to get your vote but you are wearing a bullseye on your forehead. The tax man cometh.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Yea, ask the Obamaphone lady. She will tell you.



Because they are producing. Welfare, all they do is stick their hands out for freebies.. that's why.
So it is so easy to discount the politicians who are getting government handout in the way of subsides and pet projects. Why are'nt they being included? because they have lobbyist as oppose to the poor who do not, considering it is the politicians that make the situation so bad that people have to go on welfare in the first place.

Ignorance that you are defending is the main reason that the rich keep getting richer and the middleclass is steady declining.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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2008: $2.98 trillion
2009: $3.27 trillion
2010: $3.46 trillion
2011: $3.60 trillion
2012: $3.65 trillion
2013: $3.72 trillion
Wow! Spending did not start until 2009?
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