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Old 11-13-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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Jindal: End 'dumbed-down conservatism' - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

It appears that Bobby Jindal has seized the moment: the first GOP potential presidential candidate to publicly renounce the "old" GOP and call for a new course. His speech ranged widely, but among his recommendations for a New Model GOP, he specifically renounced the anti-intellectualism and bizarre fringe-loony tendencies which have been so much in evidence among GOP candidates and supporters.

This speech will certainly be important, but it will be viewed at least two ways: either as nothing more than preparatory spin laying the foundations for his candidacy in 2016, or else the modern GOP's "Murrow moment", the famous 1954 broadcast by Edward Murrow, when someone finally stood up to the McCarthy-like extremism which has damaged the GOP brand in the latest election.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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I'm not a fan of Bobby Jindhal, but Republicans have to face facts, this is the 21st century, and pushing religious ideals and ignoring science is pathetic.

We need a real small government party, no defense, on the economy, on social issues. Republicans need to become more libertarian. Hell Rand Paul is pushing Mitch McConnel to lower penalties on marijuana. There is hope.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Jindal: End 'dumbed-down conservatism' - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

It appears that Bobby Jindal has seized the moment: first GOP potential presidential to publicly renounce the "old" GOP and call for a new course. His speech ranged widely, but among his recommendations for a New Model GOP, he specifically renounced the anti-intellectualism and bizarre fringe-loony tendencies which have been so much in evidence among GOP candidates and supporters.

This speech will certainly be important, but it will be viewed at least two ways: either as nothing more than preparatory spin laying the foundations for his candidacy in 2016, or else the modern GOP's "Murrow moment", the famous 1954 broadcast by Edward Murrow, when someone finally stood up to the McCarthy-like extremism which has damaged the GOP brand in the latest election.
Hey Bobby, THE GOP is finished, time to introduce libertarians to the mainstream.

Corpoarte welfare will be eliminated, the monetary printing presses will cease to fire, the dollar will once again be strong and Government does not mix morality into legality.

That is an "undumbed down" philosophy.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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I find it ironic that Jindal, who has presided over ever-increasing budget cuts here in Louisiana, is expressing fear in "dumbing down" of anyone. The guy's a hack and an opportunist.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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I'm not a fan of Bobby Jindhal, but Republicans have to face facts, this is the 21st century, and pushing religious ideals and ignoring science is pathetic.

We need a real small government party, no defense, on the economy, on social issues. Republicans need to become more libertarian. Hell Rand Paul is pushing Mitch McConnel to lower penalties on marijuana. There is hope.
Republicans cannot become libertarian, they are held hostage by the radical evangelical right wing loons.
GIve it up- The Libertarian party exists and along with the Greens show infinitely more enlightenment then the Rs and Ds combined.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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I find it ironic that Jindal, who has presided over ever-increasing budget cuts here in Louisiana, is expressing fear in "dumbing down" of anyone. The guy's a hack and an opportunist.
Oh- Jeff, so budget cuts are never necessary when Governments are facing fiscal turmoil?

If you support Budget cuts that means you are dumbed down?
The real dumbed down are those who are brainwashed to believe GOvernment has the ability to provide next to everything for them.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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Republicans cannot become libertarian, they are held hostage by the radical evangelical right wing loons.
GIve it up- The Libertarian party exists and along with the Greens show infinitely more enlightenment then the Rs and Ds combined.
I don't believe thats true. After all, who are the evangelicals going to vote for? Democrats?
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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I'm not a fan of Bobby Jindhal, but Republicans have to face facts, this is the 21st century, and pushing religious ideals and ignoring science is pathetic.

We need a real small government party, no defense, on the economy, on social issues. Republicans need to become more libertarian. Hell Rand Paul is pushing Mitch McConnel to lower penalties on marijuana. There is hope.
That would be the Libertarian Party So, move on over ROVEr, and come on OVER

I actually like Bobby. He just got a bad rap after he came off like Mr Rodgers
with that Republican rebuttal on TV once.....
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Republicans cannot become libertarian, they are held hostage by the radical evangelical right wing loons.
GIve it up- The Libertarian party exists and along with the Greens show infinitely more enlightenment then the Rs and Ds combined.
It is interesting that the same front page of Politico which features the story on Jindal's speech also features a piece on Paul, outlining what would amount to a libertarian putsch to seize control of the GOP.

So, cynicism aside, we now have Jindal advocating moving away from anti-intellectualism and Paul advocating a move toward libertarianism. How many other physicians will offer their own prescription to cure the ailing patient? Should be an interesting few years on the Right.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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After all, who are the evangelicals going to vote for? Democrats?
They can run on over to the Constitution Party where they belong.
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