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Old 11-13-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Moderate conservative for Obama.
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Wow. That would be a dream from heaven. Mitch McConnell is a complete disgrace. I'd like to see Ashley Judd unseat him, but she might be a bit too Malibu for Kentucky these days...they went Romney by 23%
Dems wont make the same mistake those tea baggers did and no amount of glitter is going to get you on the ticket, she may run for the primaries but i doubt she will be chosen, i heard her name being mentioned a few times from other forums. I hope Dems pick a worthy person of the kentucky seat.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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There is a new poll out that show the GOP would shoulder the blame if the government goes off the fiscal cliff. In other words if The GOP in congress keeps trying to prevent Obama from moving the country forward there could be a backlash in the 2014 mid term elections. The democrats could take back the House. The fact that democrats made gains in both the House and Senate last week should be another warning sign. Other polls show that the majority of Americans want to see the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire and some diehard republicans like Bill Crystal are now seeing the light.

If the GOP and Obama don't come to an agreement and the government goes off the fiscal cliff, Fifty-three percent of Americans said Republicans in Congress would be more to blame in that instance, according to a Pew Research Center poll conducted in the days following the election. Twenty-nine percent said that Obama would be more to blame, while 10 percent said both the president and Republicans would share blame. Republicans in congress better cave in or they will suffer bigger losses in 2014. I'm sure Republicans are looking forward to having a president Hillary Clinton and democratic control of the House and Senate at the beginning of 2017.

Poll: If government careens off fiscal cliff, GOP to shoulder blame - NBC Politics
so now the congress, which btw has democrats as well as Republicans, are going to be threatened..How wonderful. Of course you realize or actually I don't think you do: congress means, senate and house. Why would you take this as meaning the GOP must do thus and so? Study, research and then come back and post. How about that? As for Hillary, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. 4 years is a long way away, let's see what happens in the next 2 or so...
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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Well if it helps I sent Boehner an email and told him to give the Democrats everything they wanted.
Don't say No to any of their bills or amendments.
This way the Repubs can't be blamed for anything.

So I did my part.
I like this idea. Let them have it all and everyone gets to pay. Obama is a spendaholic and his spending needs to be paid for. There are not enough rich people to take "a little from so we need to get the broad base middle class to help pay for Obama's spending. It's the patriotic thing to do.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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A great deal of republicans who voted for Obama are on the ticket to remove mcconel and all the other obstructionists within the gop. They even got their own separate movement to get mcconel, who would have known?
Republicans voted for Obama? Lol
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Well if it helps I sent Boehner an email and told him to give the Democrats everything they wanted.
Don't say No to any of their bills or amendments.
This way the Repubs can't be blamed for anything.

So I did my part.
Did he shed a tear in the process?
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:42 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Lightbulb warning to the GOP in congress

If the teabag Pubs in the house run the nation off the fiscal cliff, they're toast, plain and simple. A good portion of the voting public is well aware that the GOP's stalling tactics have delayed economic recovery and they'll be watching the events in congress closely. If America slips back into recession because of Republican obstructionism, the house wil go solidly Democratic in 2 years and the GOP will be on its way down a long steep slide into irrelevancy.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Basically why do you think that at mid term and continued in this election that Obama's super majority was taken away and continued in this election. Especaill;y comig from Democrats who never accept that democrats controlled both houses for tweo eyar before the present crisis. Bush was president ans d got the blame. It was afetrall voters who voted in republicans at mid term to house control and took super majority senate away . The continue it i thsi elction.No one will remmebr who was majorityeloader;minor ity leader i either house. Ist like Bush ;Obama who takes the fall and is remember as happening under his presidency. The Buck stil stop at presidents desk and I call liberal B.S.The batter up is Obama to propose a solution that can pass the compromise test it will get.
The GOP won in 2010 because of large turnout from the Tea Party. The Tea Party is not mainstream America and since Obama wasn't on the ballot in 2010, a lot of people fell a sleep and didn't come out to vote.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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so now the congress, which btw has democrats as well as Republicans, are going to be threatened..How wonderful. Of course you realize or actually I don't think you do: congress means, senate and house. Why would you take this as meaning the GOP must do thus and so? Study, research and then come back and post. How about that? As for Hillary, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. 4 years is a long way away, let's see what happens in the next 2 or so...
The GOP in congress are the obstructionists, not the democrats. Have you seen the polls? The majority of Americans agree that taxes should be hiked on the rich to help pay down the debt and make smart investments to help the economy
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:22 AM
 
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The GOP in congress are the obstructionists, not the democrats. Have you seen the polls? The majority of Americans agree that taxes should be hiked on the rich to help pay down the debt and make smart investments to help the economy
Both parties obstruct. For congress it is more about party line than it is the people. That's one of the reasons we need term limits in congress.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:56 AM
 
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I like this idea. Let them have it all and everyone gets to pay. Obama is a spendaholic and his spending needs to be paid for. There are not enough rich people to take "a little from so we need to get the broad base middle class to help pay for Obama's spending. It's the patriotic thing to do.
i agree with this.

let this be obama's economy and let obama own it this time.

he inherited THIS economy from himself, and a democratic senate.

obama will be between a rock and a hard place-as he will either have to cut social services (which i think he leans towards) or raise taxes on the middle class-and we all know that raising taxes does slow down private sector growth-like it or not. (because it is fundamentally a transfer AWAY from the private sector). i think obama fundamentally understands that, as HE extended the bush tax cuts previously, thereby making them the obama tax cuts.

this is going to be an interesting 4 years no matter what, and the rich tax increase will go a long way towards ending "taxing the rich" as that magic unicorn nobody can catch. my guess is a lot of money will actually flee the country when it is agreed upon, hastening the bigger recession to come.
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