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Old 11-14-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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Torpedoed in a debate??? How?? Why?? What policies worked? Not the economic or foreign policies. That much is obvious, I mean to the living.
What do republicans always accuse democrats of, playing the race card. Obama and the liberal media would have Ron Paul look like the guy who started the KKK. We made mitt romney look like the devil, by the time obama would have been done with Ron Paul, he would be wishing he was only painted as a devil.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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We wasn't a legislator until 1976.
And that was the year he tore up his calendar and threw it away. He was running on nothing but ancient, no-win ideas. There was a lot about his social agenda I thought was OK, but far too much of his other stuff was neither practical nor achievable.
The habitual habit his followers had of calling people 'sheeple' hurt him badly. People think for themselves. Calling them names does not win them over in an argument. Paul was a lot more agreeable and pleasant than his fans.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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Paul would have debated Obama on the issues and destroyed him. Romney was the same as Obama. Paul wouldn't be up there debating on the proper way to run peoples lives.
The only tin foil hat wearers are the ones who think what Obama does works. All one has to do is open their eyes.
What you libertarians don't understand is that your platform leaves so many openings to be manipulated in the way Obama would have seen fit, he would have Ron Paul playing defense the entire time. He would be spending all his time defending the racist newsletters, his comments about voting against the 1964 CRA, a platform that is ok with racial discrimination, ending medicare, medicaid, entitlements, and SS. Leaving the poor on the streets, eliminating the department of education, and that's just the start. He would get crushed on foreign policy alone. Besides the fact that I completely disagree with your platform in general, Obama or whoever runs in 2016 can distort, manipulate, invent whatever they want about libertarians and there would no way you guys could defend any of it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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ron paul could have won---and he would have gotten a lot of votes from people who liked his social non-interference, his willingness to always put americans first (over other countries), his antiwar stance, his anti foreign aid stance, his no money for illegal immigrants stance, and his efforts to reign in the federal reserve, fully audit them, stop the insane printing, and dump "the bernanke".

ron paul could pull votes from BOTH sides who are fed up with all the waste in the system, all the corruption/flat out stealing, and all the cronyism.

i see very little not to like in his platform.

of course, it is possible that the country is too far gone for anybody to have beaten obama-since the economy is so much worse economically than it was, but now we will never know.
Take out the social conservatives Ron Paul would have lost before you add the people that he would have taken from President Obama in order to accurately gauge how Ron Paul would have done.

Also Ron Paul is one of the worst political campaigners in history, Barack Obama is one of the best. Keep in mind that aside from statewide primaries Ron Paul HAS NEVER WON A STATEWIDE ELECTION.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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Just want to let folks know that Dr Ron Paul gave his farewell
speech on the house floor today. It's posting is on Politics
and Other Controversies, if anyone wants to pop over and
post anything...


Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress - YouTube
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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What you libertarians don't understand is that your platform leaves so many openings to be manipulated in the way Obama would have seen fit, he would have Ron Paul playing defense the entire time. He would be spending all his time defending the racist newsletters, his comments about voting against the 1964 CRA, a platform that is ok with racial discrimination, ending medicare, medicaid, entitlements, and SS. Leaving the poor on the streets, eliminating the department of education, and that's just the start. He would get crushed on foreign policy alone. Besides the fact that I completely disagree with your platform in general, Obama or whoever runs in 2016 can distort, manipulate, invent whatever they want about libertarians and there would no way you guys could defend any of it.
All true!
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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Ron Paul has some racist skeletons in the closet if you're unaware. I'm not sure if he's actually racist but the media would have tore him a new one over the incident.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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Ron Paul has some racist skeletons in the closet if you're unaware. I'm not sure if he's actually racist but the media would have tore him a new one over the incident.
This leads me to another reason why libertarians couldn't win. They see no weaknesses in their platform. They think its so pure and that there wouldn't any reason for somebody to criticize it. Just the race card alone would bury Ron Paul because they have no defense for it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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So ending the failed war on drugs that only benefiting the murderous drug cartels and the special interests like the prison industrial complex is bat sh** crazy? Or perhaps it's his non-interventionalist policy, you know... not involving ourselves in bulls*** wars and continuing to play the world cop? Is that what you think is bat sh** crazy? Or could it be that he has been right about everything, but yet the American people don't want to hear the truth!



This again? Oh noes, If Ron Paul was elected president, he would allow slavery again in the US.



As usual just drinking the kool aide and letting the lamestream media do their thinking for them, so that they can hurry up and catch the next episode of Jersey Shore.



Still haven't read the Libertarian platform have you? No matter how many times you repeat a lie, it doesn't make it true. Show me in the Libertarian platform where they would allow discrimination! Take your time..... we'll wait for your answer.
Ok no1brownsfan, since you're to lazy to do your own research here is one example out of many... This guy is off is rocker...


Ron Paul talks about secession... in front of the Confederate Flag - YouTube
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:13 PM
 
Location: East Fallowfield, PA
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The Dr. Ronpaul could've taken Obama in a walk but the ZOG/UN/Illuminati/G-Unit/Lizard People cabal kept the truth from coming out, like always.

Real Eyes. Realize. Real Lies.
Uhhh, NO! In the words of Coach Mike Ditka - STOP IT!!
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