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Old 11-15-2012, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The refrain is always the same. Those who didn't get their nominee always think he (or she) would've been a lock.

If Ron Paul had (somehow) been the nominee and duly lost to President Obama, these boards would be filled with posters insisting that if the GOP has just nominated Mitt Romney, he would've beaten President Obama handily.
Agreed. There are always doubters. What if. It's a shame more don't do that with policy.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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Ron Paul had huge numbers of the young supporting him, and would have done much better with women and minorities than Willard Romney for obvious reasons.
The youth, females, and minorities would have really voted for Paul after watching this:

Ron Paul's Neo-Confederate "South Was Right" Civil War Speech With Confederate Flag

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Old 11-15-2012, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Yes, true.

Sorry, the fact that you never liked Romney has no bearing on the fact that, if he had lost the nomination, these boards would be filled with "Romney would have won!" claimants.

The fact that you think Ron Paul would have done better than Romney makes you no more credible than people on the left who think Dennis Kucinich would win a general election in a landslide.
Yes, you are probably right anyone and everyone will say "their guy would've won if..." but I do genuinely believe that a Ron Paul/Barack Obama election would've been a complete game changer for the two-party monopoly and opened the eyes of many blind partisans. This election was simply politics as usual, and at least IMO was easily predictable despite what all the "pollings" and media pundits were blathering on about.

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You all live in weird, reality-averse bubbles.
There is no reality; only perception.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:06 PM
 
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But the sheeple were too stupid to see it. Obviously, any of the white male Republican candidates would have gotten basicly the same white vote that Romney got... Santorum, Perry, Gingrich. The anti-Obama vote was a givaway to any white male candidate. But the only candidate that could have pulled a sizable number of voters away from Obama was Ron Paul.

I thought Gary Johnson was nearly the ideal candidate. He mostly agreed with Ron Paul. Gary Johnson got 1%, even though he agreed with the majority on all issues & cared about the 100% equally. Also, he was not purchased by special interest groups, unlike Obama & Romney. Why do voters insist in voting Republican or Democrat?? Gary Johnson was a Republican until they kept him out of most debates & polls.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The youth, females, and minorities would have really voted for Paul after watching this:

Ron Paul's Neo-Confederate "South Was Right" Civil War Speech With Confederate Flag

I doubt you watched it. Otherwise a comment on why it was bad would follow instead of a cheerleader comment.
What is bad about it?
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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I thought Gary Johnson was nearly the ideal candidate. He mostly agreed with Ron Paul. Gary Johnson got 1%, even though he agreed with the majority on all issues & cared about the 100% equally. Also, he was not purchased by special interest groups, unlike Obama & Romney. Why do voters insist in voting Republican or Democrat?? Gary Johnson was a Republican until they kept him out of most debates & polls.
With all due respect, Gary Johnson had as much "charisma" as a slug. He was incapable of delivering an impassioned speech. He didn't strike me as a leader and this country needs a leader.

Anyone else think Barack's Nobel Peace Prize was a premature-immaculation based on what is going on in the mid-east? Hmmm?
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:06 AM
 
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I doubt you watched it. Otherwise a comment on why it was bad would follow instead of a cheerleader comment.
What is bad about it?
Are you serious? He is speaking in front of rebel flag. That doesn't exactly scream vote for me if you are a minority.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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Are you serious? He is speaking in front of rebel flag. That doesn't exactly scream vote for me if you are a minority.
You didn't listen to the words, all you saw was the rebel flag and immediately thought something bad. Style over substance.

The same thought process went with people believing Iran wanted to blow Israel off the face of the map. They see Iran and immediately think evil. And of course the ones who believed the first thing they heard were wrong. Not saying you thought that about Iran, but in this case with the video, why not listen to the entire message?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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You didn't listen to the words, all you saw was the rebel flag and immediately thought something bad. Style over substance.

The same thought process went with people believing Iran wanted to blow Israel off the face of the map. They see Iran and immediately think evil. And of course the ones who believed the first thing they heard were wrong. Not saying you thought that about Iran, but in this case with the video, why not listen to the entire message?
And your response to this is exactly why Ron Paul would get buried. You'd have to be on meth to think you can win people over, when the presidential candidate is speaking in front of a rebel flag. You honestly think an african american is going to look at Ron Paul standing in front of a rebel and say, That's the guy I want running the country.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Aside from your platform itself, libertarians will never win the election because they actually believe that their form of government is pure and that everybody benefits from it. Even Republicans and Democrats aren't that stupid. We know that our platforms aren't for everybody, but for whatever reason libertarians thank their form of government will allow for equal opportunity. You guys make the tea party look logical.
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