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Old 11-16-2012, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Irony... I've noticed that the GOP has been deliberately defunding education at every level for the past 49 years as well as demonizing teachers - that has led to 3 more generations of frightened, angry, ignorant, gullible bigots in our country - just the type that vote for whatever crazy ideas and crazy candidates the GOP put out.




This deserves a bump.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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The "rich folks" don't own businesses or control prices. They are mostly investors with their money as their "product".
Fine. Replace "rich folks" with "highest wage earners." Do you think the executives at XYZ Company whose incomes are based on the company's profitability are simply going to let the company absorb the additional expense of higher taxes and subsequently take a lower salary? Heck, no, they are going to maintain profitability through a combination of price hikes and expense cuts, both of which will have a negative impact on the middle class and the poor.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Chris Christie Disagrees With Mitt Romney's 'Gifts' Comment

Interesting. Chris Christie is turning on the Republicans again. We'll make a Democrat of him yet
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Chris Christie Disagrees With Mitt Romney's 'Gifts' Comment

Interesting. Chris Christie is turning on the Republicans again. We'll make a Democrat of him yet
LOL

I'm not sure about making a Democrat out of him, but he sure hasn't exactly been toeing the party line, has he?

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Old 11-16-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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LOL

I'm not sure about making a Democrat out of him, but he sure hasn't exactly been toeing the party line, has he?

True that. Yes, I know he was kissing up to Obama because he needed federal (gasp!) money for hurricane victims, but even he is starting to get irritated at the BS the GOP keeps dreaming up.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Moderate conservative for Obama.
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Fox says that uneducated people voted for Obama - I guess meaning people who are not real bright. Where did they get their information?


This is exactly what i'm talking about.

This is how DUMB some Americans have become and YOU are a shining beacon as an example, i guess you didnt read the small print in that image i pasted?

It says on there that it's been compiled by foxbusiness.com ... Do you need glasses? or have you been enjoying a bottle of romnesia too much?

Mittnesium Bull$h!tixide 47% by volume


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Old 11-16-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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If you are a 47%er just own it? What's the problem I thought you are proud of it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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This is exactly what i'm talking about.

This is how DUMB some Americans have become and YOU are a shining beacon as an example, i guess you didnt read the small print in that image i pasted?

It says on there that it's been compiled by foxbusiness.com ... Do you need glasses? or have you been enjoying a bottle of romnesia too much?

Mittnesium Bull$h!tixide 47% by volume

Lol! Can't rep you, but LOVE the Milk of Romnesia brain laxative bottle!
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Im a conservative and I VOTED for OBAMA!!! No way was I going to give my vote to a flip-floping fish with no strategic plan to improve the economy. Obama had it tough for the first term and it will be even harder for the second term but it would be hard for any president, since you can't just jump start the ecomony overnight. It took years to get this bad and it will take years again to get back to "normal"
Not only the 4-year time span but obstructionism must be overcome.
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McCain seems to have just found out that he lost his attempt at election. Kind of having difficulty keeping track of where and when he is.
I originally liked McCain when he was doing the talk shows, but his true colors were not exposed then. He was talking like a democrat, but staunchly refused to embrace the party's ideas. Now we know why, he is a "get off my lawn" conservative.


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Fine. Replace "rich folks" with "highest wage earners." Do you think the executives at XYZ Company whose incomes are based on the company's profitability are simply going to let the company absorb the additional expense of higher taxes and subsequently take a lower salary? Heck, no, they are going to maintain profitability through a combination of price hikes and expense cuts, both of which will have a negative impact on the middle class and the poor.
The 1% are not wage earners. The proposed higher taxes are a miniscule amount to any high income bracket, I don't have the figure before me.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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The 1% are not wage earners. The proposed higher taxes are a miniscule amount to any high income bracket, I don't have the figure before me.
First of all, the 1% starts at $343,000. No, those guys aren't punching a time clock, but most people at that rate are still working folks putting in 60 hours or more each week with very high levels of stress in exchange for that income.

Second of all, the tax hikes start with those earning $250,000, who fall outside the 1%.

But both of those facts are irrelevant. You completely missed my point. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you didn't even read my post; if you did, you failed to comprehend it.

The tax burden on the individuals making that kind of money is inconsequential. The typical earner making $250K will pay an extra $199 a year in taxes. Big whoop. That's not what I was talking about.

The greater problem is that many people making that kind of money are executives for large companies and are compensated based on the company's profits, and it's the company's taxes I'm referring to. If a company's profits go down as a result of paying additional taxes (including Obamacare), so will the executives' salaries that are based on those profits. So those executives are going to react to this increase just as they would to any other increase: They are either going to raise prices to their customers, cut other expenses, or do some combination of the two. Because if they don't make these moves they are at the very least going to end up making less money, or at the worst lose their high-paying jobs.

It doesn't seem like a big deal to take a few thousand more dollars a year from a multi-millionaire, but when you look objectively at the big picture you can see that there is a snowball effect that causes a negative impact for everybody. If you're willing to look, that is.
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