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Old 11-16-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Mitt Romney's loss may be a blessing in disguise. Bret Stephens writes in the Wall Street Journal:
"And though I have my anxieties about the president's next term, I also have a hunch the GOP dodged a bullet with Mr. Romney's loss.

... the GOP dodged ownership of the second great recession, which will inevitably hit when the Federal Reserve can no longer float the economy in pools of free money. When that happens, Barack Obama won't have George W. Bush to kick around."
Obama owns this economy. He created it, and now he must deal with it in his second term.

Summarizing this article:
Blog: Can Romney's loss help Republicans?
  • The stock market has nose-dived since [because of] his re-election, and October's $120-billion deficit is the start of a fifth straight $1-trillion-plus annual deficit -- not to mention that the economy and jobs are growing at a snail's pace.
  • ObamaCare is beginning to bite, with new taxes starting in 2013, companies cutting back benefits, and all manner of unintended consequences emerging, not the least of which is businesses coming to grips with the law by further constricting hiring. As Forbes recently observed, the health care law has hatched a "healthcare cost monster."
  • The EPA and other agencies have built up a regulatory cliff that rivals the fiscal cliff in potential economic damage, with no desire in a Democratic Senate to apply the brakes. And Dodd-Frank has enshrined too-big-to-fail bailouts while tying up the financial industry in endless and costly bureaucratic rulemaking.
The Democrats now have complete ownership of the wreckage of the last four years, and will have no excuses left when things do not improve, but are worsened by their reckless and foolish policies.

This leaves the door wide open for the mid-term elections in 2014, when many more Democrat Senators will be vulnerable, and for a Republican to be sent to the White House in 2016, thus saving the Republic.
Dems will blame bush for the economy forever. They will never take ownership
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hillary is too old and too tarnished. She has "Benghazigate" written all over her with the blood of four dead Americans.

Hillary has been sucking up to Muslims, which most Americans find anathema to who we are as Americans, because she is acquiescing freedom of speech to Muslim speech codes. This does not sit well with the majority of Americans who do not support the idea of "hate speech" but see it as a threat to liberty.

In short: She has too much baggage.
she has also stated over and over NO< NO<NO!!!For those whlo forget easily let me remind you: 1-she didn't handle her last the last campaign too well. There were tears, a lot of anger and a lot of accusing. She looks like HELL right now and will be pushing 70 in 2016. And isn't it the left that keeps saying, Romney got the nomination, as well as McCain cause it was their turn? Wouldn't that be what the Democrats would be doing, choosing Hillary?
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Wall St. May Not Cheer, but Obama’s Been Good for Stocks..

IT’S often said that Wall Street prefers Mitt Romney to Mr. Obama, Mr. Hickey observed, yet the stock market has flourished under the president — and under Democratic presidents generally. Since 1900, it has returned 7.1 percent annually when Democrats have occupied the White House, and only 3 percent under Republicans.

Wall St. May Not Cheer, but Obama?s Been Good for Stocks - NYTimes.com
econ by 101 in college, the stock market is controlled by world affairs, not by who is in office. If it is controlled by the Pres how do you feel about what has happened in the past 8 days?
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Mitt Romney's loss may be a blessing in disguise. Bret Stephens writes in the Wall Street Journal:
"And though I have my anxieties about the president's next term, I also have a hunch the GOP dodged a bullet with Mr. Romney's loss.

... the GOP dodged ownership of the second great recession, which will inevitably hit when the Federal Reserve can no longer float the economy in pools of free money. When that happens, Barack Obama won't have George W. Bush to kick around."
Obama owns this economy. He created it, and now he must deal with it in his second term.

This leaves the door wide open for the mid-term elections in 2014, when many more Democrat Senators will be vulnerable, and for a Republican to be sent to the White House in 2016, thus saving the Republic.
Most folks (except for the RWNJ's) can see the economy is slowly turning around, which of course increases revenues and gradually brings the debt down again, just as it did in Clinton's time, when he inherited Reagan's massive debt from Bush Sr.

So the question is, how long can the GOP continue repeating "the sky is falling"... before they finally have to turn around and switch to the same one they used on Clinton, "but the economy would have fixed itself anyway"?!
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If the Republicans are the American Taliban, then the Democrats are the American Nazis.

Their are many similarities between Democrat tactics and Nazi tactics, and the goal of the Democrats is the same.

Liberty, and Freedom, are not the ideals of the Democrat Party.

Republicans do not desire to establish a theocracy. And our Constitution would prohibit any such attempt. Republicans are Constitutionalists, which would seem to make your claim ridiculous on it's face.

However, if you fear a the establishment of an American theocracy, perhaps you would be wise, as a Party (the Democrats) to cease your pandering to, and slobbering all over Muslims, who do pose a threat to America. For their goal, by stealth infiltration, is the Islamization of America, and with the help of YOUR Party, they are doing it.

Yet, it was YOUR PARTY which criticized Michele Bachmann and four other Congressmen for raising the concern with several Attorney's General.

This is a real threat. It is not a trivial thing. Wise up! When we lose freedom of religion, ignorance will be a flimsy excuse.

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And one more thing, which shows your ignorance of Islam vs. Christianity:
  • Christians to not seek to enslave and oppress women.
  • We do not require that they keep their heads covered, leaving only a small slit to see through.
  • We do not seek to prevent them from getting as much education as they desire.
  • We do not practice female genital mutilation.
  • We do not consider their testimony worth only 10% of a man's.
  • We do not murder women for alleged "dishonoring" of family or husband ("Honor killing," something that even American Muslims practice, and get away with in many cases).
  • Christians do not consider women as their "posessions."
The Bible tells us:
Ephesians 5:25 ff "Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the Church, and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church — 30 for we are members of his body. 31 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become on flesh."





I didn't say that Republicans are the American Taliban, I said that Republicans need to quit following everything that the American Taliban wants. And yeah, Democrats need to quit listening to the most radical part of their party. But, for the life of me, I haven't seen the dramatic swing to the left that would indicate that they are doing that. I see a lot of anti abortion, anti birth control, defining rape, crap from the GOP.

The problem with the bible isn't Jesus, its the other idiots who actually wrote it and want to listen to the old testament when they see fit, and ignore it when they like to as well. Like the Taliban using parts of Islam to push a fundamentalist message that doesn't really correlate with Islam, Fundamentalist Christians do the same thing with biblical text.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Hillary is too old and too tarnished. She has "Benghazigate" written all over her with the blood of four dead Americans.

Hillary has been sucking up to Muslims, which most Americans find anathema to who we are as Americans, because she is acquiescing freedom of speech to Muslim speech codes. This does not sit well with the majority of Americans who do not support the idea of "hate speech" but see it as a threat to liberty.

In short: She has too much baggage.
Kinda like Romney was gonna win in a landslide?
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The GOP might have dodged a bullet, but America didn't.

In spite of his many faults, Romney would have been much better for the country than what we have now
Disagree. $2 trillion in unwarranted extra defense spending plus no investment in US infrastructure plus the middle class having deductions cut would not have been better than the Obama plan. Well, it would have been better for the wealthy and for defense contractors. But if you are not in one of those groups you would have been SOL with a president Romney.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The GOP might have dodged a bullet, but America didn't.

In spite of his many faults, Romney would have been much better for the country than what we have now.

But the OP is correct. It's now 0bama's mess. Lotsa luck, America.
I agree with you 100%, Dale, but since we didn't win the WH, we just need to focus on what we did win. We do have 30 Republican governorships, and the majority of those states have Republican controlled legislatures. We made gains here, which seems to say that Obama didn't get the "mandate" he thinks he did for his policies.

People voted largely out of ignorance. They "like" Obama. They don't believe us when we try to explain who he is, and what he believes. They are going to find out.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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It's beyond me why the far left ignores, even denies these facts. An inconvenient truth for them, I guess.
It is because they are so "successful" that they think they know what is best for our country lol.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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Dems will blame bush for the economy forever. They will never take ownership
Of course they will. When you fail you always have to find a scape goat. Just like Obama did the first term and just like the left blames the rich.

When you are not a failure there is no need to blame others.
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