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Old 11-18-2012, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Pppllleeeaaase....we just got over one of these travesties....and you supposing about the next one? Bored...and nothing to do?
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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That will be nearly impossible here in Texas. Julian Castro is a tax-loving robin hood socialist and would be easily labeled as such. He just spearheaded a 1/8 cent sales tax to provide pre-k day care for poor people in SA. I like his progressivism on other things, but scorn any attempt to raise taxes, even sales taxes which disprortionately affect the poor.
And his mother is the founder of either the Aztlan movement or la raza, can't remember exactly which.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Actually I support that kind of a tax because it makes it easier for those who are poor to put their kids in pre-K while trying to bring home enough money to survive and possibly get ahead of their situation.

But you are right, he probably wouldn't be governor in Texas unless there is a massive shift of Latinos in the state, but he could be a Senator or Representative.....though he could also like being a mayor of a big city and have no plans on ever going for president.
I work in a preschool near Austin and there are already government programs in place to send kids to preschool and daycare. We don't need an extra tax funded program for it since they already exist.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:45 AM
 
Location: #
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Don't kid yourselves about the dems becoming the party that rules all. Hispanics are people who share conservative values. Once they're legal, there will likely be a sea change. They are religious, mostly Catholic, and believe in the strong bond of the family unit.

The younger hispanics take care of and respect their older relatives, and often multi-generations live in the same household so that older individuals aren't left to struggle. They value the opinions of their older family members, and respect them greatly. Most of them would never be able to get away with the way younger US kids treat their own parents these days.

In the USA right now, most younger people have become literally brainwashed, and no longer respect the wisdom and intelligence of their elder relatives.

It's pathetic how lots of liberals, including our president, have encouraged the younger generation to believe they're smarter, better in all ways, and wiser than their parents and grandparents.

Younger people in this country have been indoctrinated to believe they're superior. Sad, sad situation. Eventually it will help lead to the demise of this country if it doesn't stop.

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And then you woke up, no?
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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another great presentation, OP--well done.

When I looked at the exit polls on Nov 7, the thing that jumped out at me was that Obama got 92%, 73%, and 70% respectively of black, Asian, and Hispanic votes. That was just about one quarter of the total electorate.

Why would these three groups, with quite divergent economic interests, all vote Democratic? The obvious explanation to me is that there is a widespread perception that the GOP is the home of the racist. Now I don't believe this about the GOP, but nonetheless in politics perception is reality.

Most voters don't seek out information, but just absorb it from the environment. They get it from sources like Kanye West, from Daily Show, the public ed system etc., i.e. the infotainment-sphere, which is mostly owned and operated by the left.

I learned years ago that when I meet a black person I have to be very careful about admitting to be a Republican. Many a time I noticed the negative body language; the step back, the near-gasp of shock, usually quickly shut down but still noticable, etc. This was tough for me since in my younger days I had a thing for black women, lol. But anyway, the point is, the perception exists.

I hardly think that conservatism in America is a dead letter quite yet, not when we still control the house and 29 of 50 governorships. But I do think that conservatives have our work cut out for us in overcoming this perception.
WIth successful rebranding the first group out of the Dem coalition will be Asians. Once they learn the Dems plan on confiscating their wealth and university slots for Blacks and Browns there will be a stampede for the exits. The GOP can get some more Hispanics with better messaging as well but they'll probably never get a majority of them. While a slight majority of Hispanics hold unfavorable views of socialism an even greater percentage of them have negative views of capitalism.

Blacks are committed socialists no amount of rebranding will move the needle much towards the GOP.

Is Rush Limbaugh's Country Gone? - NYTimes.com
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hillary needs to pick a prominent Hispanic politician as VP. I wonder who the GOP's sacrificial lamb will be?
You certainly haven't been reading many publications on what to expect in 2016 or watching the TV news shows have you? I guess just having an idea in your mind will make it happen....Oh, who might that Hispanic politician be?

and why is everyone spending so much time dwelling on2016? We aren't even 2 weeks into the next term...How about, if you really want to talk future candidates, we discuss 2014 and senatorial races or something like tthat? 4 years is a lifetime in politics, anything could happen. What we are basing our predictions on now, could be 100% different than what we think in 3 or 4 years...

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Old 11-19-2012, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Julian Castro?

I'm a bit dubious at the notion of a mayor on the ticket -- albeit the 7th largest city in the United States. Still...

But I'm skeptical that Hispanics are going to flock to a candidate just because a Hispanic is on the ticket. It would give a candidate a certain bump, I think, but I don't think there would be any radical shift in voting numbers.
He is about the only one that could even be considered prominent and that is a stretch...going from being mayor to VP is also a stretch...yes, it coould happen, stranger things have, but it is still a bit premature for him.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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If that were true, then the Latinos that are legal in this country would be voting overwhelmingly for the GOP.....though instead they showed up to vote for the Democrats....so I don't think this train of thought is going to accomplish anything if the GOP doesn't change their point of view on Latinos and how they treat them.
Bush got 44% of the Latino vote in 2004, so it certainly isn't a lost cause.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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Pppllleeeaaase....we just got over one of these travesties....and you supposing about the next one? Bored...and nothing to do?
I'm fascinated by people who pick one of the many, many threads on City-Data that do not interest them -- and then post there, informing everyone who is interested in the topic that they should refrain from discussing it merely because that poster is bored by it. It never occurs to me to display such preening narcissism in threads that don't interest me.

I just don't post in them.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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WIth successful rebranding the first group out of the Dem coalition will be Asians. Once they learn the Dems plan on confiscating their wealth and university slots for Blacks and Browns there will be a stampede for the exits. The GOP can get some more Hispanics with better messaging as well but they'll probably never get a majority of them. While a slight majority of Hispanics hold unfavorable views of socialism an even greater percentage of them have negative views of capitalism.

Blacks are committed socialists no amount of rebranding will move the needle much towards the GOP.

Is Rush Limbaugh's Country Gone? - NYTimes.com
Ah, yes -- the old "Asians are just politically ignorant, and they'll vote for us once we make sure they get a clue" is a sure-fire way to appeal to that demographic!

I'd try to dissuade you from such condescension but... all I can say is ... "Go for it!"...
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