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Old 11-21-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Well all we can do then is go vote. If no whites are in the party we will lose. Somehow I don't think that will happen. 15% Blacks plus 15% or more Hispanic gives the Dem's 30%. I don't believe 80% of Whites will go with the GOP. So thats 50% right there. The younger Whites in GOP areas are not like their parents. Dem's will pick up a percentage of them.

I don't know what radical racial politics you speak of.
Blacks make up 12% of the population. So not sure where you're getting 15% from. Even "racist" Romney got a quarter of Hispanics so can't count on all 15% there. Overall you're right it's doubtful 80% of Whites will go for the GOP although the GOP gets 80% of the White vote in the South.

What's interesting about the White vote is that in states where there are a significant number of minorities the GOP generally wins a majority of the vote. In states with few minorities it generally doesn't. I mean Romney won the White vote in California, New Jersey and Pensylvania. He tied in New York.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Your response is not based in reality. Romney said nothing that could remotely viewed as racist during the primary.
I know everything I need to know about Romney when he described a convention full of professional Blacks as people looking for more free stuff from the gov't.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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I never said ignore minority voters, I said ignore Black voters big difference. The GOP can cobble a winning coalition with 60% of the White vote and 35-40% of the Hispanic and Asian vote. This is very doable. I'd also do some micro targeting of immigrants in general

Blacks are not necessary, if a few fall into the GOP lap the more the merrier but to contort the GOP to make it more palatable to the majority of Blacks is foolish. Since most are simply not receptive to the message of hard work, personal responsibility and limited government involvement.


I believe you are trying to be deliberately provocative. I thought flaming was not allowed. Blacks are not necessary? What kind of statement is that? This last statement is wrong and meant to be hurtful. What is your deal?
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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I never said ignore minority voters, I said ignore Black voters big difference. The GOP can cobble a winning coalition with 60% of the White vote and 35-40% of the Hispanic and Asian vote. This is very doable. I'd also do some micro targeting of immigrants in general

Blacks are not necessary, if a few fall into the GOP lap the more the merrier but to contort the GOP to make it more palatable to the majority of Blacks is foolish. Since most are simply not receptive to the message of hard work, personal responsibility and limited government involvement.
That is a very different response then you have been giving about there being no GOP ceiling among white voters. I am glad my point sunk in.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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What's interesting about the White vote is that in states where there are a significant number of minorities the GOP generally wins a majority of the vote. In states with few minorities it generally doesn't. I mean Romney won the White vote in California, New Jersey and Pensylvania. He tied in New York.
You mean a majority of the white vote. Romney obviously did not win a majority of the vote in Florida, New York, California, Ohio, Michigan, Virginia or Colorado.

There's been a lot of research on this phenomena in both the U.S. and the EU. Places that have fewer racial minorities tend to have more liberal social attitudes and less open hostility towards minorities (i.e., Iowa, Vermont, Sweden). Countries that are more homogeneous also tend to be more accepting of social welfare.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Blacks make up 12% of the population. So not sure where you're getting 15% from. Even "racist" Romney got a quarter of Hispanics so can't count on all 15% there. Overall you're right it's doubtful 80% of Whites will go for the GOP although the GOP gets 80% of the White vote in the South.

What's interesting about the White vote is that in states where there are a significant number of minorities the GOP generally wins a majority of the vote. In states with few minorities it generally doesn't. I mean Romney won the White vote in California, New Jersey and Pensylvania. He tied in New York.
You are wrong about Black people and thank God the majority of this Country disagrees with you and people who think like you. To the OP just read all of poster EdwardA's post to see why we run not walk from Republican candidates. This is what the GOP leadership does not challenge.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I know everything I need to know about Romney when he described a convention full of professional Blacks as people looking for more free stuff from the gov't.
Link please.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: NC
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Blacks make up 12% of the population. So not sure where you're getting 15% from. Even "racist" Romney got a quarter of Hispanics so can't count on all 15% there. Overall you're right it's doubtful 80% of Whites will go for the GOP although the GOP gets 80% of the White vote in the South.

What's interesting about the White vote is that in states where there are a significant number of minorities the GOP generally wins a majority of the vote. In states with few minorities it generally doesn't. I mean Romney won the White vote in California, New Jersey and Pensylvania. He tied in New York.
Depends which part of the south. Mississippi and Alabama yes, North Carolina and Virginia no.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You mean a majority of the white vote. Romney obviously did not win a majority of the vote in Florida, New York, California, Ohio, Michigan, Virginia or Colorado.

There's been a lot of research on this phenomena in both the U.S. and the EU. Places that have fewer racial minorities tend to have more liberal social attitudes and less open hostility towards minorities (i.e., Iowa, Vermont, Sweden). Countries that are more homogeneous also tend to be more accepting of social welfare.
Well duh I was referring to the White vote since that's what I was talking about in the previous sentence.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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Well duh I was referring to the White vote since that's what I was talking about in the previous sentence.
I just saw a thread you did before the election. After being so wrong do you not question what you are posting here?
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