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Old 11-24-2012, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Well, you're correct but only by accident.

Yes, Rubio is a non-starter who will fail to deliver the votes of Hispanics, blacks and women.

The reason for this is that the recent transformation of the US political landscape is not based on race or gender but a candidate's willingness to pander.

Conservative Republicans, and especially those with Tea Party credentials, are pledged to treat all citizens equally, control spending and limit the federal government's involvement is the lives of the people.

Those conservative principles run counter to the desires of the recipient class and various groups that compete for special treatment under the law.

Regardless of any conservative's racial and/or religious pedigree, his or her ideology just won't sell in moochville America.
Well I see that you have guzzeled a few gallons of tea party koolaid. Have you checked the records of these tea bags???? They talk the talk but they sure don't walk the walk. Their idea of controlling spending is not reducing the amount they spend but who it is that gets the money!!!! They are freakin hippocrites in the first degree.

If you didn't notice the tea bag were pretty much rejected just a few short weeks ago. Americans have woken up to who these idiots really are and who it is they shill for!!!
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Who cares? Obama's second admin will have effectively sealed the fate of the nation. At this time, we are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
If this is good at your election predictions, we should be in wonderful shape (Dow 20,000?) by 1/20/17.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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The objective is to begin the trashing of Rubio, who the left sees as a future threat. They must "take him out," so to speak.

I think it's time that we Republicans take a page from their own book, and seek weaknesses in their candidates and begin trashing them also. Surely, their candidates have flaws that can be exploited.

If this is the way the game is to be played, we have to play it that way too.
Well what have you been doing the since 2008 to Barack Obama?
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Well, you're correct but only by accident.

Yes, Rubio is a non-starter who will fail to deliver the votes of Hispanics, blacks and women.

The reason for this is that the recent transformation of the US political landscape is not based on race or gender but a candidate's willingness to pander.

Conservative Republicans, and especially those with Tea Party credentials, are pledged to treat all citizens equally, control spending and limit the federal government's involvement is the lives of the people.

Those conservative principles run counter to the desires of the recipient class and various groups that compete for special treatment under the law.

Regardless of any conservative's racial and/or religious pedigree, his or her ideology just won't sell in moochville America.
If think somebody is in "Moochville" simply because they voted for the Democratic Party you'll never be able to sway a significant number of voters.

Plenty of people who aren't in "Moochvile" voted for the Democratic Party. There happen to be a considerable number of Americans who are relatively financially stable or affluent who don't live their lives by the credo: "I've got mine and if you don't have yours then f**K you!"

Sorry but in order buy into current Conservative logic you have to believe in "legitimate rape", the earth is 6,000 years old, by against same-sex marriage, a woman should have no choice when it comes to an abortion or helping out Americans that have been devastated by the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression is wrong.
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The objective is to begin the trashing of Rubio, who the left sees as a future threat. They must "take him out," so to speak.

I think it's time that we Republicans take a page from their own book, and seek weaknesses in their candidates and begin trashing them also. Surely, their candidates have flaws that can be exploited.

If this is the way the game is to be played, we have to play it that way too.
They were successful in doing this recently, as recently as 2007. Those really good candidates, that might have run for Pre distroyed before they could even seriously make a decision on their future. One, of course, was Mitch Daniels.
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Well, you're correct but only by accident.

Yes, Rubio is a non-starter who will fail to deliver the votes of Hispanics, blacks and women.

The reason for this is that the recent transformation of the US political landscape is not based on race or gender but a candidate's willingness to pander.

Conservative Republicans, and especially those with Tea Party credentials, are pledged to treat all citizens equally,
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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this has been mentioned over and over, it is not new. The fact is: first, he is a minority with roots from another country. He is very popular and the fact that he speaks spanish, regardless of the type is a plus...So, sorry, I don'tthink you have it completely correct..No, he isn't going to sway every Hispanic to his side, but he certainly would bring some over.
Yes you're absolutely correct in your prediction. Just like your other correct prediction that Alan Grayson will lose in his return match last Nov. 6.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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I tend to agree that Rubio will add nothing. I am suspect of anyone that has Dick Cheney in his corner and it makes me wonder what dirty deals they have together.

Rubio came up with the bone headed internet laws...then backed off his own bill when he finally understood it... He is a tool, and not a useful one.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Well, you're correct but only by accident.

Yes, Rubio is a non-starter who will fail to deliver the votes of Hispanics, blacks and women.

The reason for this is that the recent transformation of the US political landscape is not based on race or gender but a candidate's willingness to pander.

Conservative Republicans, and especially those with Tea Party credentials, are pledged to treat all citizens equally, control spending and limit the federal government's involvement is the lives of the people.

Those conservative principles run counter to the desires of the recipient class and various groups that compete for special treatment under the law.

Regardless of any conservative's racial and/or religious pedigree, his or her ideology just won't sell in moochville America.
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Well I see that you have guzzeled a few gallons of tea party koolaid. Have you checked the records of these tea bags???? They talk the talk but they sure don't walk the walk. Their idea of controlling spending is not reducing the amount they spend but who it is that gets the money!!!! They are freakin hippocrites in the first degree.

If you didn't notice the tea bag were pretty much rejected just a few short weeks ago. Americans have woken up to who these idiots really are and who it is they shill for!!!


It's not the background of the office holder that makes them go astray but the demands of the voters.

Obviously some, if not most, of the conservative Tea Party backed freshmen will join in the DC crowd rather than get voted out of office for not stealing from the next generation the way the voters want.

Either way, the exponential growth of the federal debt will continue because it's what the people want.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Well, you're correct but only by accident.

Yes, Rubio is a non-starter who will fail to deliver the votes of Hispanics, blacks and women.

The reason for this is that the recent transformation of the US political landscape is not based on race or gender but a candidate's willingness to pander.

Conservative Republicans, and especially those with Tea Party credentials, are pledged to treat all citizens equally, control spending and limit the federal government's involvement is the lives of the people.

Those conservative principles run counter to the desires of the recipient class and various groups that compete for special treatment under the law.

Regardless of any conservative's racial and/or religious pedigree, his or her ideology just won't sell in moochville America.
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If think somebody is in "Moochville" simply because they voted for the Democratic Party you'll never be able to sway a significant number of voters.

Plenty of people who aren't in "Moochvile" voted for the Democratic Party. There happen to be a considerable number of Americans who are relatively financially stable or affluent who don't live their lives by the credo: "I've got mine and if you don't have yours then f**K you!"

Sorry but in order buy into current Conservative logic you have to believe in "legitimate rape", the earth is 6,000 years old, by against same-sex marriage, a woman should have no choice when it comes to an abortion or helping out Americans that have been devastated by the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression is wrong.

I never said the only motive for voting for Democrats was government handouts.

Special treatment based on race, gender and sexual orientation is also on the table.

The constant cries of racism, sexism and homophobia is convenient cover for Democrats who give favored groups rights and privileges that are superior to those of much vilified heterosexual white males.
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