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Old 12-31-2012, 04:28 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I think the Republican Party is actually very close to being a power again. They simply need to come up with moderate stances on the environment, immigration, gay marriage, and gun rights. It is possible to come up with small gov't/ pro business solution to all of those issues. Secondly, stop nominating people who are truly extreme (no more "legitimate rape candidates, etc).

 
Old 12-31-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I think the Republican Party is actually very close to being a power again. They simply need to come up with moderate stances on the environment, immigration, gay marriage, and gun rights. It is possible to come up with small gov't/ pro business solution to all of those issues. Secondly, stop nominating people who are truly extreme (no more "legitimate rape candidates, etc).

And my Mets are just 21 roster spots away from being a World Series contender.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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Because its just that. A platform. Empty rhetoric. People know Romney likes to say 'freedom'. But only Ron Paul is the real deal and means it. At least Obama is honest about the direction he wants to take america in...Corporate socialism.

Romney could barely be more transparent.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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I think the Republican Party is actually very close to being a power again. They simply need to come up with moderate stances on the environment, immigration, gay marriage, and gun rights. It is possible to come up with small gov't/ pro business solution to all of those issues. Secondly, stop nominating people who are truly extreme (no more "legitimate rape candidates, etc).
So basically not be conservative in any way?

Our 'conservatives' did that and barely got a coalition. Meanwhile, what conservative support they do have is evaporating to actual conservative parties like UKIP.

They can compete with the dems for a few million odd moderate 'swing' votes, or they can regain a firm rightwing footing, undo 100 years of unconstitutional govt (get rid of the fed for a start) and capture tens of millions of disillusioned right wingers.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I think the Republican Party is actually very close to being a power again. They simply need to come up with moderate stances on the environment, immigration, gay marriage, and gun rights. It is possible to come up with small gov't/ pro business solution to all of those issues. Secondly, stop nominating people who are truly extreme (no more "legitimate rape candidates, etc).
I agree, but I think it's more than just taking a stance. As Republicans we need to offer solutions: an acceptable path to citizenship to those who came here illegally, but worked hard and stayed clean and contributed to this society; to offer a path for the LGBT community to love and marry who they love, but does not force any religion to endorse that choice by acknowledging a difference between marriage (a religious institution) and civil unions (a legal contract).
 
Old 12-31-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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to understand the numbers once again, we have 47 million people on food stamps now, with 1 million added in the last year.

we have 12 million people getting unemployment insurance.

25 percent of households make under 25k a year.

transfer payments make up 22 percent of household income.

only 4 percent of families earn over 200k, and only 2 percent earn over 250k.

our debt ceiling is larger than our annual GDP- set to hit a 16.4 trillion limit at the end of this year.

go ahead and tell me things are looking up.

as pointed out in this article, many americans are only one government check away from disaster:
You are absolutely right.
It's like the rats who hate the ship are cheering as it goes down in flames oblivious to the fact that they have sealed their own fate along with ours.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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I agree, but I think it's more than just taking a stance. As Republicans we need to offer solutions: an acceptable path to citizenship to those who came here illegally, but worked hard and stayed clean and contributed to this society; to offer a path for the LGBT community to love and marry who they love, but does not force any religion to endorse that choice by acknowledging a difference between marriage (a religious institution) and civil unions (a legal contract).
In other words, the Republicans need to adopt the Democratic platform on these issues. I agree. The Democrats have been the voice of reason for decades now. It's time the Republicans get on board.
 
Old 01-01-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Truth is, most Republicans to me are normal, well meaning people....not the extremists that they're made out to be.

Blaming the CRA is Republican code for "blame the minorities," and it's not even all that veiled anymore. Moreover, it's completely untrue. I don't know why you insist on repeating it.
It is completely true. Do some homework. The revision of the CRA in the nineties really opened the floodgates forcing lending to those who could not afford it.
 
Old 01-01-2013, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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The right depends on Faux Entertainment for their information and as a result are largely uninformed. They thought they had a chance bec Karl Rove said they did ( He thought he eliminated enough democratic votes but was simply wrong.)

In order to win the Right must make a sham of the voting system, They have to cheat and do all they can to fix the election, when that isn't enough...they lose.

They have poor candidates with antiquated ideas. They think a do nothing Congress will work for them and it has the opposite effect. People want action and have had enough of the lies of the right. expect the right to lose more ground in 2014. Hopefully enough we can get things done again. As long as the Repugs have held a House majority, nothing has been done.
The only advantage the left has is that the ignorant voters believe what propaganda is broadcast on main stream media. They are too stupid to think for themselves or to do research on the internet to find the truth. Even doing a google search 9 out of 10 results will be from left wing sources. The main stream media will not even cover stories if they will hurt liberal candidates, like Benghazi. And they will not go after liberals who are full of crap, like Hillary and her boo boo that is keeping her from testifying. FOX always has both sides of the story. It may be 2 against 1 but the liberal voice is heard.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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2) Promote personal responsibility, but get rid of the racist angle.
Obama and the democrats are all about race baiting. They are using black Americans to get elected and the left wing media runs with it.
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