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Old 11-27-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
The country has changed for the worst, morally and demographically.
Not true at all.

 
Old 11-27-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: west mich
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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper View Post
Where do I sign up for those free prescriptions? I'd like a piece of that.
Clearly, you haven't a clue.
There's that failed public education again. Pssssssttttttttt: Fox is spelled "Fox".
Fox spells it f-o-x "fair and balanced" but it is in reality Fox "faux news". Not obvious to you?
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Originally Posted by Brick Tamland View Post
Rugged individualism is a myth. Frontier America was built around communitarian organization out of necessity.
And Hollywood.
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I have said this before, and I will repeat it again: since the U.S. is center-right (at least right now,) the Democrats need to run more moderate candidates than the Republicans do. So a lot of slightly right-leaning pragmatic types might support generally Republican policies, but see through the extreme positions and race-baiting that many on the Right are supporting and end up voting for Democrats instead. I still believe that a pragmatic conservative who actively and honestly seeks to work with concerns of all Americans, particularly but not exclusively minorities, would be unstoppable.
You present your assumption as fact. America is not center-right just because Fox says it is.
* You seem to be buying into the right-wing assertion that democrats are "socialists".
* Fox itself is extreme plutocratic right-wing posing as center-right, and the mainstream media is corporate-right. Many people vote republican because they have been suckered, believing the nonsense that corporate news is centrist or liberal.
This does not mean that Americans are center-right ideologically.
* Any candidate, repub or democrat, working for Americans should be unstoppable. The corporate media will quash any candidate, like the third parties', that doesn't fall in line.
* Republican policies have been plutocratic ever since Eisenhower.

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Old 11-27-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Fox spells it f-o-x "fair and balanced" but it is in reality Fox "faux news". Not obvious to you?
No, it's not obvious to Dale, and yet, she's fond of calling anyone on the left a "dummie." You've got to love it when posters like this display the very traits they accuse the other side of possessing.

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Old 11-27-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: west mich
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Originally Posted by my54ford View Post
You think it's right the have to work harder? ever ask yourself why we have to do that? 53% of us are are carrying the other 47% How friggin hard will we have to work when it goes the other way????
Gee, where did you hear this, and why do you accept it as truth? I never thought people were dumb enough to embrace it.
 
Old 11-27-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Originally Posted by tinman01 View Post
Population density.
Cities voted overwhelmingly Obama. Rual America for Romney. Different needs and priorities.
City dwellers rely much heavier on the gov than rual people.
Rual folks often provide their own water, sewage and garbage removal. WE have less need for large expensive police, fire and sanitation depts.
The bottom line is Rual Americans enjoy much fewer Gov programs. That makes Obama less desirable.
I don't mean any of the above as a condemnation of city people just stating the facts. Rual people due to the nature of the lives we have chosen rely less on the fed. Most Cities would go bust without Fed dollars to keep them floating.
That is just total b.s.... the majority of welfare recipients are overwhelmingly white and non-urban (aka, "rural")! And Obama actually lost most of that rural vote because they still cling to your kinda fantasies of ''self-sufficiency'', and because now they're ashamed to admit they depend on that assistance even more than before (thanks to 8 years of that last republican guy... who they also wanna forget, Dubya somethin' or other...)!

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Old 11-27-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: west mich
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No, it's not obvious to Dale, and yet, she's fond of calling anyone on the left a "dummie." You've got to love it when posters like this display the very traits they accuse the other side of possessing.
I've got 'em in my family - that's how I know about them.
They have this ego thing that "everybody but me and mine are slackers".
So with their blinders firmly in place, we get stuff like -
Liberals/democrats:
* hate work
* hate this country
* hate their own children (Hannity)
* are stupid
* hate business
* are Marxists and fascists (at the same time)
* own the media
* are racists
* hate our military
* are too environment-friendly
* are anti-profit
* support left-wing "hate" media (as opposed to "fair-and-balanced" media)
* hate Christians (and are plotting to intern them)
* love America's enemies (wanted Bin Laden to succeed)
* want imposed wealth redistribution (even though tax cuts, shelters, and subsidies for the rich are the same)
* have a "war" on national christian holidays

and this is what passes for conservative fair-and-balanced discourse and "reason".
 
Old 11-27-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Democrats did not cause the crash - it was a deregulated Wall Street run wild. This was responsible for rising unemployment in 2008 which peaked in October 2009. Then repubs, fearing its success, fought the stimulus bill and successfully watered it down.
Blaming the "housing bubble" is just republicans diverting blame from their own Wall Street base.

Greece, with a population of 11 million has more hard-working people than our 300+ million? This sounds like more Fox/Romney "Americans are slackers" crap.
Actually, it was the Wall Street invention of Mortgage Backed Securities bundling and Credit Default swaps that once they blew up, took out the housing market. Neither party did much to investigate or regulate these investments, however, the Bush administration did warn congress of the potential dangers. However, neither side acted on the warning so I blame politicians on both side of the aisle. It often times take inaction and stupidity of people in both parties to wreck an economy.
 
Old 11-27-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 View Post
No, it's not obvious to Dale, and yet, she's fond of calling anyone on the left a "dummie." You've got to love it when posters like this display the very traits they accuse the other side of possessing.
LOL, the world is calling the left illiterates.

Give credit to President Obama for exploiting voters’ ignorance to promote the “Commnist Manifesto without calling it so.

Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them…

He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.
 
Old 11-27-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Romney lost because he didn't promise voters any free stuff. There's just too much pond scum out there looking for a free ride.
If we keep making statements that all the people who voted for Obama are lazy moochers, then we'll keep losing elections. We need to understand first that people in all walks of life voted for Obama in the election, Black & White, Rich & Poor, Employed & Unemployed, Urban and Rural. Calling people names and making sweeping generalizations about half the population just because they didn't vote for our candidate isn't going to helps us win back their votes next time around. We need to stop with the name calling, the anger, the uncompromising positions, and start to offer clearly defined, well-defined conservative solutions based on real, actual facts, and communicate how those solutions can help all the people from those various walks of life.

I think on social issues, the electorate is inevitably moving left of center. I think on fiscal matters, the electorate would still go right of center, if the fiscal ideas presented were realistic and devoid of fear-mongering and identity politics.
 
Old 11-27-2012, 05:02 PM
 
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Let's give American voters the benefit of the doubt and say it was all voter fraud and not ignorance or stupidity.

Instead we'll say it's true that the Communists usage of electronic voting was just a plan to manipulate the vote. Soros and his ownership of the company that counts the US votes in Spain helped put their puppet in power in the White House. According to the Huffington Post, residents in all 50 states have filed petitions to secede from the Unites States. We'll say that these Americans are hostages to the Communists in power.

How long will their government reign tyranny upon them?
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