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Old 11-27-2012, 07:35 AM
 
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The Republicans got their best candidate here.
Capito Says She'll Make Bid for Rockefeller's Senate Seat - News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

Capito is a more pragmatic and traditional Republican than the Club For Growth would like.
Club for Growth takes shot at Shelley Moore Capito

That actually bodes well for the GOP chances in taking this seat; she is very unlikely to pull a Richard Mourdock (or the equivalent). And she's no Specter or Snowe, inclined to buck the party line too often. But now it all hinges on Rockefeller. If he decides to retire this race is a likely Republican pickup. If he runs again he will be the favorite in the race.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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The Republicans got their best candidate here.
Capito Says She'll Make Bid for Rockefeller's Senate Seat - News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

Capito is a more pragmatic and traditional Republican than the Club For Growth would like.
Club for Growth takes shot at Shelley Moore Capito

That actually bodes well for the GOP chances in taking this seat; she is very unlikely to pull a Richard Mourdock (or the equivalent). And she's no Specter or Snowe, inclined to buck the party line too often. But now it all hinges on Rockefeller. If he decides to retire this race is a likely Republican pickup. If he runs again he will be the favorite in the race.
Actually, it doesn't all hinge on Rockefeller, it hinges on whether the GOP is willing and able to wrest control of the party from the RWNJs. As you note in your second link, conservatives on the far right have already signaled their intention to fight Capito because she isn't "pure" enough for them. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. It could give some insight into whether the GOP has learned anything from 2012 or not.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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i would say a rabid tea partier could win in WV. i see WV as a very backward state with many white racists.
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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i would say a rabid tea partier could win in WV. i see WV as a very backward state with many white racists.
You would be largely correct. There are some areas that are more progressive in their thinking such as Morgantown and Charleston. The town we came from - was a wealthy little suburb - with educated people - but there was no diversity whatsoever. The more rural areas - could definitely go tea party.
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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i would say a rabid tea partier could win in WV. i see WV as a very backward state with many white racists.
Well see that's your problem. You don't think.Thank you for proving that.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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i would say a rabid tea partier could win in WV. i see WV as a very backward state with many white racists.
It's really not that simple. Look at candidates like John Raese - anti-abortion, anti-equality, pro-DADT, anti-education, anti-science, anti-tax. He's been running since the mid-80s and still hasn't managed to win.

Yes, large swaths of WV are filled with poor white racist trash, but it also still has a strong labor history that makes it easy for conservative Democrats to win.

The GOP won't be running against a Ted Kennedy or Sherrod Brown. They'll be running against someone whose positions are more like Olympia Snowe or John McCain before he became an angry bitter old man.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: NC
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Capito is a more pragmatic and traditional Republican than the Club For Growth would like.
Club for Growth takes shot at Shelley Moore Capito

That actually bodes well for the GOP chances in taking this seat; she is very unlikely to pull a Richard Mourdock (or the equivalent). And she's no Specter or Snowe, inclined to buck the party line too often. But now it all hinges on Rockefeller. If he decides to retire this race is a likely Republican pickup. If he runs again he will be the favorite in the race.
If Club for Growth is against her then she is likely to pull a Tea Party fanatic to challenge her in a primary.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: NC
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i would say a rabid tea partier could win in WV. i see WV as a very backward state with many white racists.
Only if said rabid tea partier was running against a black person. WV is heavily Democratic it is just also heavily racist as well. Something like 20% of White Democrats in 2008 admitted that race played a major role in their voting during the primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. That is much higher then Mississippi and for every 1 person who admitted race played an important role there were probably at least 2 more that didn't have the chutzpah to tell an exit poll interviewer that it did. Remember we are talking about a state where Democratic primary goers gave 41% of the vote to a convicted felon in a Texas jail over Obama. Now I can understand disagreeing with Obama, but if an imprisoned cult leader is getting 41% something is up.

With that said WV is heavily Democratic where everything else is concerned. Democrats out number Republicans 2-1 and run the state.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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i would say a rabid tea partier could win in WV. i see WV as a very backward state with many white racists.

How's the view, lookin' down that nose?
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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The Republicans got their best candidate here.
Capito Says She'll Make Bid for Rockefeller's Senate Seat - News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

Capito is a more pragmatic and traditional Republican than the Club For Growth would like.
Club for Growth takes shot at Shelley Moore Capito

That actually bodes well for the GOP chances in taking this seat; she is very unlikely to pull a Richard Mourdock (or the equivalent). And she's no Specter or Snowe, inclined to buck the party line too often. But now it all hinges on Rockefeller. If he decides to retire this race is a likely Republican pickup. If he runs again he will be the favorite in the race.

Rockefeller is much more liberal than Joe Manchin or the late Robert Byrd. I have seen quite a few polls that show him losing to her.
West Virginia has went from a deep Democratic state(with the exceptions of the 72 and 84 landslides)to becoming a state that has went red in 4 straight elections,by larger margins each year. In November it went 62% for Romney.
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