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Old 12-23-2007, 03:19 PM
 
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There's a difference between socialism and social democracy.
Socialism vs. social democracy

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"Modern social democracy is unlike socialism in the traditional sense which aims to end the predominance of the capitalist system, or in the Marxist sense which aims to to replace it entirely; instead, social democrats aim to reform capitalism democratically through state regulation and the creation of state sponsored programs and organizations which work to ameliorate or remove injustices inflicted by the capitalist market system."

"Socialism is a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community for the purposes of increasing social and economic equality and cooperation.[1] This control may be either direct, exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils, or indirect, exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state or community ownership of the means of production."

Hillary's somewhere between a capitalist and a social democrat, certainly not a "socialist" in any normal sense of the word.
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:36 AM
 
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Socialism vs. social democracy

From wikipedia

"Modern social democracy is unlike socialism in the traditional sense which aims to end the predominance of the capitalist system, or in the Marxist sense which aims to to replace it entirely; instead, social democrats aim to reform capitalism democratically through state regulation and the creation of state sponsored programs and organizations which work to ameliorate or remove injustices inflicted by the capitalist market system."

"Socialism is a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community for the purposes of increasing social and economic equality and cooperation.[1] This control may be either direct, exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils, or indirect, exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state or community ownership of the means of production."

Hillary's somewhere between a capitalist and a social democrat, certainly not a "socialist" in any normal sense of the word.
So with this she is more like Peking.
In other words, A Communist
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:18 AM
 
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Hillary is a hawk, end of story. In quite possibly one of the most telling articles ever written about Hillary it is summed up pretty clear to me.

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_03_27/cover.html (broken link)

When “the Moose” talks, Democrats listen—just like the Republicans did when he was flacking on their behalf. And the Democrat listening the closest to this Trotskyist-turned-neoconservative is Hillary Rodham Clinton, supposedly the leader of the party’s far-left wing.

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The disconnect between rhetoric and reality, between the antiwar views of Hillary’s left-wing base and the militant interventionism of Wittmann and the DLC crowd, finally forced her to come to grips with the contradiction—or at least to appear to do so. This occurred not in a public speech but in an e-mail sent to her supporters in which the trouble she is in is acknowledged in the first sentence: “The war in Iraq is on the minds of many of you who have written or who have called my office asking questions and expressing frustration.” Chances are, these callers were expressing frustration not only with the policies of the Bush administration but with her own complicity with Bush’s Middle Eastern agenda of seemingly endless aggression.
Keep in mind, this piece was written by Justin Raimondo of Anti-War.com, for those of you who think this is a conservative hit piece.

And so the neoconservatives come home to roost back in the DNC party's more militant candidates. May all you Democrats survive the neoconservative infestation. Good luck.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:38 AM
 
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So with this she is more like Peking.
In other words, A Communist
Haha.. I was thinking it, I didnt want to say it..
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:44 PM
 
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I don't get it.
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