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Old 08-28-2013, 09:48 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Zzzzzz.......

The previous occupant of the White House was warned on August 6, 2001 of the the possibility of Bin Laden attacking the United States. Over 3,000 people died on September 11, 2001. He told people to go shopping.

The previous occupant of the White House fought two wars off the financial books with 6,700 US soldier deaths, 50,000 soldiers injured and 225,000 civilian casualties so far.

You said something about four deaths?

And some some gun running scheme?

This is why your political party is becoming increasing irrelevant.
You've got a point here. Bush Jr. (and possibly Clinton as well) screwed up big-time when it came to al-Qaeda, Iraq, and the deficit and debt. Of course, this doesn't excuse the Obama administration for what happened in Benghazi (if they deserve some blame for it).
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Hillary would be the first woman President. Her husband is hugely popular and the most popular and beloved of the former Presidents. She's an excellent campaigner, and has her feet on the ground coming from NY. She's not a bigoted Republican, not someone trying to protect only the rich while everyone else goes to hell. She'll have the Black vote, the Hispanic vote, the woman vote, gays, veterans, elderly, underprivileged, unemployed, underemployed, blue-collar, working class, poor, non-bigoted whites, immigrants, youth, college-educated, non-bigoted Asians, non-bigoted Indians, middle class, the sick, and the historically-disadvantaged. She would be supported by the progressive elite, and the wealthy who fight for equality and the end to racial discrimination. She'll be following a popular, effective, and great President in President Obama, and continuing to extend the effectiveness of being a Democrat in the White House. So on and so forth.

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Hillary Clinton is a radical Obama Stooge who was incompetent at handling the one executive job she was given. She isn't Bill Clinton.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton is a radical Obama Stooge who was incompetent at handling the one executive job she was given. She isn't Bill Clinton.

She's better than Bill Clinton. She was highly competent being Secretary of State. She has world recognition and respect, far more so than the current iteration of the GOP. Stay in you Faux Nooz bubble, dear.

Hillary in 2016!
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hillary Clinton is a radical Obama Stooge who was incompetent at handling the one executive job she was given. She isn't Bill Clinton.
I believe as we get closer to the 2016 election, probably this time next year or a little later, people will start examining other Democrat choices and she will be forced to defend herself which won't be easy.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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She's better than Bill Clinton. She was highly competent being Secretary of State. She has world recognition and respect, far more so than the current iteration of the GOP. Stay in you Faux Nooz bubble, dear.

Hillary in 2016!
Well, sweet pea, tell me exactly what she did in the State Department that shows she was good at her job and you know, try to stay out of your PMSNBC bubble.
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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First of all the electoral math exercises are a pointless parlor game. 95 percent of the time, the candidate who gets 50%+1 wins the electoral map.

Secondly, as OP admits, it is very unlikely that Christie could get through the GOP primaries. There will be a host of candidates who are more conservative in 2016. Christie loses on the gun issue alone.

Lastly, I still doubt that Hillary will opt to run. She's been complaining of exhaustion since 2008. She had a tough row to hoe as SOS with the issues in Libya, and now the entire middle east is even more of a mess than usual. As a candidate in 2016, she would face a lot of questions about that. She would be 69 on election day, 2016.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:22 PM
 
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Well, sweet pea, tell me exactly what she did in the State Department that shows she was good at her job and you know, try to stay out of your PMSNBC bubble.
Oh, I dunno. She left the State Department with sky high popular approval of her time as Secretary of State due to cultivating extremely important relationships with world leaders, logged a million miles by visiting 112 countries on behalf of the US to communicate personally with those leaders, having to clean up the mess left by the previous occupant of the White House. That was a tough job to have to rehabilitate severed relationships caused by W's reckless disregard for the rest of the world.

You can read some more accomplishments here: (but I'm sure you won't and whatevs. Shrug)
Clinton Steps Down As Secretary Of State With Achievements But No Breakthroughs
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