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Old 11-09-2013, 11:32 AM
 
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Agree or Disagree.

the 10 are:

Rick Santorum
Ted Cruz
Chris Christie
Marco Rubio
Rand Paul
Ben Carson
Jeb Bush
Paul Ryan
Scott Walker
Rick Perry
In rank order:

10. Rick Perry. No chance. His 2012 primary performance was the nail in his coffin.

09. Ben Carson: Who??? No name recognition. No appeal to anyone other than Social Conservatives.

08. Rick Santorum: Perpetual candidate with a core of supporters. However, they will probably get drawn away by a newer, more charismatic candidate.

07. Paul Ryan: 2012 was too soon to be forgotten, but still young enough to recover (remember Nixon?). Needs to move up to either Senator or Governor before running again. May make a play for Secretary of the Treasury if the GOP wins 2016.

06. Jeb Bush: Arguably the smartest of the Bush clan. However also inherits all the Bush baggage.

05. Ted Cruz: The Conservative version of Obama - Young, ambitious, energetic. Both have strong academic backgrounds, both had no previous elected Executive experience, both were the Junior Senator from their respective states, both have alleged "citizenship issues", both are absolutely REVILED by the opposition... Big Business interests may sabotage his campaign from within the GOP due to the aftermath of the shutdown(s).

04. Scott Walker. Straight-up GOP Governor. However may be vulnerable on the recall issues, as well as his state's economic performance.

03: Chris Christie. Would make a good Moderate candidate *IF* he survives the primary. TONS of opposition research on him (mostly within the GOP itself). Otherwise the most electable on this list.

02: Marco Rubio. Smart, young, charismatic. May bring Florida into contention. Has tried to moderate his positions while balancing support from the Far Right.

01. Rand Paul. The one person in the GOP that may be able to bring the various factions to a truce. Broad appeal among conservatives, may have some inroads with independents if he doesn't get wrapped up in social issues. Inherits his father's vision (and supporters) without Dad's flaws.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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In rank order:

10. Rick Perry. No chance. His 2012 primary performance was the nail in his coffin.

09. Ben Carson: Who??? No name recognition. No appeal to anyone other than Social Conservatives.

08. Rick Santorum: Perpetual candidate with a core of supporters. However, they will probably get drawn away by a newer, more charismatic candidate.

07. Paul Ryan: 2012 was too soon to be forgotten, but still young enough to recover (remember Nixon?). Needs to move up to either Senator or Governor before running again. May make a play for Secretary of the Treasury if the GOP wins 2016.

06. Jeb Bush: Arguably the smartest of the Bush clan. However also inherits all the Bush baggage.

05. Ted Cruz: The Conservative version of Obama - Young, ambitious, energetic. Both have strong academic backgrounds, both had no previous elected Executive experience, both were the Junior Senator from their respective states, both have alleged "citizenship issues", both are absolutely REVILED by the opposition... Big Business interests may sabotage his campaign from within the GOP due to the aftermath of the shutdown(s).

04. Scott Walker. Straight-up GOP Governor. However may be vulnerable on the recall issues, as well as his state's economic performance.

03: Chris Christie. Would make a good Moderate candidate *IF* he survives the primary. TONS of opposition research on him (mostly within the GOP itself). Otherwise the most electable on this list.

02: Marco Rubio. Smart, young, charismatic. May bring Florida into contention. Has tried to moderate his positions while balancing support from the Far Right.

01. Rand Paul. The one person in the GOP that may be able to bring the various factions to a truce. Broad appeal among conservatives, may have some inroads with independents if he doesn't get wrapped up in social issues. Inherits his father's vision (and supporters) without Dad's flaws.
no. rand paul has his dad's "flaws." he's a white male.
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I totally disagree with you: I do not think he will go anywhere or not far, anyway. Yes, he might win a few early primaries, sorta like Huckabee did in 2008, but that will be the end, I think. My guess: what you are thinking is more hope than anything else.
Did you see him on Leno last night? He looked like he was working a page from Obama's 2008 run playbook: I am here to serve the people, to get big special interests out of government. He cleverly disguises his true philosophy under the cloak of populism. He is a slick one and he is going to get the nomination.
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Did you see him on Leno last night? He looked like he was working a page from Obama's 2008 run playbook: I am here to serve the people, to get big special interests out of government. He cleverly disguises his true philosophy under the cloak of populism. He is a slick one and he is going to get the nomination.
No, I didn't: I was probably in night night land. I am a morning person so rarely get to see Leno. Who, btw, is my favorite TV personality. I still don't think he will get the nod, but we will see; we have about 18 months before things start taking shape.
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