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Old 11-01-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Poll: Virginia governor race a nail-biter - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com

What looked like a 17% lead for McAuliffe is now a statistical tie. Here are the numbers:

45% McAuliffe
41% Cuccinelli
9% Sarvis (Libertarian)

The question at this point is who comprises the 9%? We know that this 9% won't hold on election day. So IMO, the winner of this election comes down to the composition of the 9% and who leaves the 9.

Also, a Roanoke College poll in the same article has McAuliffe up 15% over Cuccinelli; however, they have McAuliffe with 46% of the vote, similar to the Quinnipiac, but have more undecideds and thus, less share for Cuccinellli.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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McAuliffe continues to hold a double-digit lead with women...who vote more than men do.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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McAuliffe continues to hold a double-digit lead with women...who vote more than men do.
Maybe if Democrats were more sensitive to some of the real and documented disadvantages some men face in life, they would win the male vote. A few things Democrats could do:

1. Some movement toward fairness in divorce court and custody hearings.
2. Equalize the gender gap in universities.
3. The trades: start funding training in the trades (generally male dominated professions that were hammered during the recession.
4. Address young males' falling performance at the primary and secondary school levels.
5. Men's health programs. Since we're always focused on women's health, maybe some programs focusing on the gender with the life expectancy nearly 4 years less than the other might be prudent.
6. Address male poverty. Democrats tend to lump all males into some sort of advantaged class that doesn't need any sort of help. This class simply doesn't exist. Instead of berating all men, maybe attack "rich, white, males."
7. Mental health in men. An addendum to #5 above, could do a lot to reduce violence.

Democrats could make inroads to the male vote if they opened their eyes a bit and really fought for equality and justice regardless of the gender, race, etc of the recipient of the injustice. Currently, the rhetoric coming out of the Democrat party is anti-male.
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Maybe if Democrats were more sensitive to some of the real and documented disadvantages some men face in life, they would win the male vote. A few things Democrats could do:

1. Some movement toward fairness in divorce court and custody hearings.
2. Equalize the gender gap in universities.
3. The trades: start funding training in the trades (generally male dominated professions that were hammered during the recession.
4. Address young males' falling performance at the primary and secondary school levels.
5. Men's health programs. Since we're always focused on women's health, maybe some programs focusing on the gender with the life expectancy nearly 4 years less than the other might be prudent.
6. Address male poverty. Democrats tend to lump all males into some sort of advantaged class that doesn't need any sort of help. This class simply doesn't exist. Instead of berating all men, maybe attack "rich, white, males."
7. Mental health in men. An addendum to #5 above, could do a lot to reduce violence.

Democrats could make inroads to the male vote if they opened their eyes a bit and really fought for equality and justice regardless of the gender, race, etc of the recipient of the injustice. Currently, the rhetoric coming out of the Democrat party is anti-male.
dems dont need the white male vote.

minorities and white females have proven through 2 election cycles that is all you need. the minority vote will continue to grow, while the white male vote will continue to decrease.

regarding this race, mcauliffe has led in every poll since july 7th, and his average in the latest polls is 7 points.

nothing is going to change between now and election day, which means mcauliffe will win.
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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dems dont need the white male vote.

minorities and white females have proven through 2 election cycles that is all you need. the minority vote will continue to grow, while the white male vote will continue to decrease.

regarding this race, mcauliffe has led in every poll since july 7th, and his average in the latest polls is 7 points.

nothing is going to change between now and election day, which means mcauliffe will win.
My comments said nothing about the white male vote. My comments addressed the entire male vote which Democrats are losing. And by the way, you definitely need males to win elections. But thank you for being honest about your misandry.
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Old 11-01-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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Alas for the poor white male...who have been having things their own way for the past 300 years or so and are now weeping over the rise of equality.

At least 2 of your 'points' are happening because men have had all the advantages since, well, forever. 2 & 5 are only true in the last 10 years or so. Prior to that, men lead that 'gender gap' in both medical and college. Get used to the new paradigm, y'all.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Alas for the poor white male...who have been having things their own way for the past 300 years or so and are now weeping over the rise of equality.

At least 2 of your 'points' are happening because men have had all the advantages since, well, forever. 2 & 5 are only true in the last 10 years or so. Prior to that, men lead that 'gender gap' in both medical and college. Get used to the new paradigm, y'all.
Yeh. Impoverished white males have it so good in this country.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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Yeh. Impoverished white males have it so good in this country.

well, you tell blacks to quit whining and making excuses, so i'll tell white males the same thing, no whining and quit making excuses.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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dems dont need the white male vote.
Maybe not but without their money you'll never get the votes you need.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Maybe if Democrats were more sensitive to some of the real and documented disadvantages some men face in life, they would win the male vote. A few things Democrats could do:

1. Some movement toward fairness in divorce court and custody hearings.
2. Equalize the gender gap in universities.
3. The trades: start funding training in the trades (generally male dominated professions that were hammered during the recession.
4. Address young males' falling performance at the primary and secondary school levels.
5. Men's health programs. Since we're always focused on women's health, maybe some programs focusing on the gender with the life expectancy nearly 4 years less than the other might be prudent.
6. Address male poverty. Democrats tend to lump all males into some sort of advantaged class that doesn't need any sort of help. This class simply doesn't exist. Instead of berating all men, maybe attack "rich, white, males."
7. Mental health in men. An addendum to #5 above, could do a lot to reduce violence.

Democrats could make inroads to the male vote if they opened their eyes a bit and really fought for equality and justice regardless of the gender, race, etc of the recipient of the injustice. Currently, the rhetoric coming out of the Democrat party is anti-male.


Why are Republicans doing none of this if you believe it would work, i mean, some of these are total BS ( your #3 is the reason #2 exist, what you are proposing would widen that gap. ), but if you believe this is what we should be doing then why are Republicans ?

If you honestly think Dems are anti male, thats fine, but i dont see Republicans doing any of the things you want.
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