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Old 11-07-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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Thank you for the clarification - and most of the storm and thunder about HRC falls into the latter category.
Really - Please point out the organized smear campaign. She did hold a federal political office, so questions related to unresolved issues during her time in office are just. That accounts for much of the new relating to HRC. The rest is her getting various endorsements, attending events and other mundane matters.

Again asking about issue relating to the office they are holding by those the represented are OK.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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Typical - don't look at the guy being good across party lines, what he has done or the message he brings only look at his party affiliations. Same liberal attack as always.
Pretty much the same as the Right screaming "Most liberal ever!" every time a Democrat rises to prominence and enters a race against a Republican. "Tax and spend! Tax and spend!" they cry, without looking at whether the guy was good across party lines.

Political parties attempt to get victories for their party. No surprise.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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Pretty much the same as the Right screaming "Most liberal ever!" every time a Democrat rises to prominence and enters a race against a Republican. "Tax and spend! Tax and spend!" they cry, without looking at whether the guy was good across party lines.

Political parties attempt to get victories for their party. No surprise.
So you think that some loud mouths making general comments during a campaign against someone that has announced they are running is equivalent to an organized smear campaign several years prior to the person ever declaring he is seeking office? You need to get a better handed on the scope of those two items both in duration and content.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Apparently you don't understand the difference between questioning someone for what they are currently doing and attacking someone because 3 years down the road they might run for president. You are also clearly willing to distort or otherwise fabricate the statements of others. Nowhere did a state or imply that Christie was a saint, or make any other comments about his character. A majority of people in NJ appear to generally like him as governor (or at least the better of the choices) If people in JN want to question him about what he is doing in their state, that is their right.

My post was very limited in scope. It voiced objection to a campaign by Democrats that's only purpose was to flood the nation with negative propaganda about a person that has not even stated if they are running for president. Sorry, but those type of action fall in the scummy category.
Thre are many current issues that many find Christie wrong on. What Christie does in NJ is based upon his values as a governor and will carry over into the national arena. His stances on social issues and policies are indicitive of who he is and how he will represent. As a POTUS there a lot there not to like for Liberals and Progressives. The people of NJ have just overrode his veto on same sex marriage and the minimum wage issues. Hurricane Sandy gave him the opportunity to put himself in the limelight as the leader during a disaster, much like Guilliani took advantage of 911 for photo-ops and press coverage. Christie asked for federal aid just as any governor would have done. No hero here. I'm sure he has allegiance to his home state, but I have read that there are people in NJ really upset how the relief funding they have been waiting for has been delayed and they blame Christie.

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While Gov. Chris Christie starred in the “Stronger Than The Storm” campaign and appeared at numerous photo-ops at the Jersey shore this summer, some homeowners are still waiting for help and running out of patience.

Standing outside the storm-damaged Keansburg home of Elena Pagonis and Joe McLaughlin on Friday, Buono said “There’s a whole other Jersey that needs to be rebuilt.”

The couple turned to Buono after not getting a response from the state Department of Community Affairs on the status of their grant application, they said.

“They want to know at least when they’ll hear back from somebody, anybody, with a definitive answer on where they stand with respect to recovery funds,” Buono said. “If the governor had enough time to travel out to Texas to see the (Dallas) Cowboys, I see no reasonable explanation why he can’t come here and speak to these people and give them an answer.”

Daily Kos: NJ-Gov: Democrats Will Highlight Sandy Rebuilding Issues In Race Against Chris Christie (R)

Chris Christie, America's most overrated governor
Chris Christie, America's most overrated governor: Moran | NJ.com

Christie officials owe answers on Sandy relief
Christie officials owe answers on Sandy relief: Editorial | NJ.com

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Old 11-07-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Thre are many current issues that many find Christie wrong on. What Christie does in NJ is based upon his values as a governor and will carry over into the national arena. His stances on social issues and policies are indicitive of who he is and how he will represent. As a POTUS there a lot there not to like for Liberals and Progressives. The people of NJ have just overrode his veto on same sex marriage and the minimum wage issues. Hurricane Sandy gave him the opportunity to put himself in the limelight as the leader during a disaster, much like Guilliani took advantage of 911 for photo-ops and press coverage. Christie asked for federal aid just as any governor would have done. No hero here. I'm sure he has allegiance to his home state, but I have read that there are people in NJ really upset how the relief funding they have been waiting for has been delayed and they blame Christie.




Chris Christie, America's most overrated governor
Chris Christie, America's most overrated governor: Moran | NJ.com

Christie officials owe answers on Sandy relief
Christie officials owe answers on Sandy relief: Editorial | NJ.com
Those may be legitimate issues, when and if he chooses to run for president bring those up would be appropriate. However, that is different than mounting a smear campaign years before the person ever runs for federal office.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Apparently you don't understand the difference between questioning someone for what they are currently doing and attacking someone because 3 years down the road they might run for president. You are also clearly willing to distort or otherwise fabricate the statements of others. Nowhere did a state or imply that Christie was a saint, or make any other comments about his character. A majority of people in NJ appear to generally like him as governor (or at least the better of the choices) If people in JN want to question him about what he is doing in their state, that is their right.

My post was very limited in scope. It voiced objection to a campaign by Democrats that's only purpose was to flood the nation with negative propaganda about a person that has not even stated if they are running for president. Sorry, but those type of action fall in the scummy category.

So what has been fabricated. You have posted a couple of comments, but you post no specifics to back up your claims.

as for the Bold, im guessing you have commented on the Hillary Clinton bashing forums as well.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Link: Democrats begin effort to negatively define Chris Christie before 2016 campaign - The Washington Post

Here we go again. The one thing Democrats are good at: personally attacking and smearing those who disagree with them.
Why would they do this? Christie is the best friend Democrats ever had. He's no threat to Democrats. That's why they want him to be the Republican nominee.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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Those may be legitimate issues, when and if he chooses to run for president bring those up would be appropriate. However, that is different than mounting a smear campaign years before the person ever runs for federal office.
He ran for state office for the last year!!!!

you are talking about this man as if he was not in full campaign mode just 2 days ago.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Sounds like they are alittle late. They need to concentrate the damage done to Hillary by being labeled as part of Obama's administration.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Sounds like they are alittle late. They need to concentrate the damage done to Hillary by being labeled as part of Obama's administration.
Exit polls say people in New Jersey would vote for Hillary by a 49-43 Margin, and this is an off-off year election.
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