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Old 11-10-2013, 12:20 AM
 
Location: somewhere flat
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He's way too conservative on the social issues and way overrated ...IMO. He's also a tad too belligerent when faced with an opposing view from others. That will not play well with many people on the national stage when he is confronted with some of his baggage.

Absolutely correct. He is a right wing conservative. His politics are right wing. This man is not a centrist on any important issue. Appointing a Muslim judge in NJ makes good political sense. There are many Muslim voters in NJ. Muslims are what the Irish, Italians, Jews, and Poles were 75 years ago.
That act does not make Christie a liberal - or a centrist. It confirms that he is a politician.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:35 AM
 
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Why would they do this? Christie is the best friend Democrats ever had. He's no threat to Democrats. That's why they want him to be the Republican nominee.
You can't be serious. Christie is a huge threat because he would take away independents from the democrats. Plus, even some democrats would vote for him. If you run a conservative, you will lose.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:35 AM
 
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Absolutely correct. He is a right wing conservative. His politics are right wing. This man is not a centrist on any important issue. Appointing a Muslim judge in NJ makes good political sense. There are many Muslim voters in NJ. Muslims are what the Irish, Italians, Jews, and Poles were 75 years ago.
That act does not make Christie a liberal - or a centrist. It confirms that he is a politician.
Christie played it smart by distancing himself from the radical right, but his by no means a Democrats/Liberals dream Centrist Republican. By today's standards, he is moderate, but that is just from an isolated perspective. The radical right is bashing him for being too moderate for their expectations and ideologies and some Democrats have also fallen for the hype. NJ re-elected the guy they see as being a real devoted Jersey guy, but there are many there that are not pleased with his performance. He did get 60% of the vote, which really is amazing considering the fact that he has come up short on major issues. His reaching out to Obama was what any Governor would have done under the circumstances after a disaster, but with the partisanship and radical stances these days, Christie came off as above the fray, but he only did what he was supposed to do as Governor. I don't see that as heroic as much as just an elected official doing his job.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:39 AM
 
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You can't be serious. Christie is a huge threat because he would take away independents from the democrats. Plus, even some democrats would vote for him. If you run a conservative, you will lose.
Why do you and others think that Christie is not a Conservative? Name one social issue that he has not taken a Conservative position on.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Have you listened to Hannity, Beck, or Limbaugh lately? They got NOTHING good to say about Christie.

They want the latest tea party darling to represent them.
they are not the insiders: they are simply entertainers or think they are.. Have you listened to Bill Crystol (spelling)? or how about Eric, on "the 5"? They are strong supporters of him. At least Bill way, I don't pay a lot of attention to these people. I listen or watch them for entertainment mainly and not to get honest information. Hannity is so far to the right, he makes Cruz look like a liberal. Beck has lost most of his base.
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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The liberals are scared to death of him. They know that if he makes to the national election he will be very hard to beat. Christie will win unless the Democrats run Hillary and somehow neutralize her role in the Benghazi disaster.
The conservatives are always saying that 'liberals are scared to death' of somebody. I heard it in reference to Palin, Cain, Perry, and the rest of the GOP clown car, usually just before that candidacy crashed spectacularly. 'Oops'.

Maybe the conservatives should find something else to say as it seems to be something of a jinx.
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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Why do you and others think that Christie is not a Conservative? Name one social issue that he has not taken a Conservative position on.
This perception that Christie is a moderate is the real threat he poses to the left. I agree, he has been very conservative on all of his stances, but because he comes across as mostly a reasonable, pragmatic kind of politician, he can fool a lot of liberals into thinking he's less conservative than he is. He's a politician who is in the right place at the right time in history, because compared to the hair on fire lunatics of the Tea Party, he appears sane. And if he's smart, he will use that to his advantage.
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You can't be serious. Christie is a huge threat because he would take away independents from the democrats. Plus, even some democrats would vote for him. If you run a conservative, you will lose.
Tea partiers, Paulbots, and extreme social conservatives never learn....

(Though Christie is a conservative. It has to do with the type of person and type of conservative he is.)
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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Why do you and others think that Christie is not a Conservative? Name one social issue that he has not taken a Conservative position on.
I do think he's a conservative. I question whether he will be conservative 'enough' to placate the far, far, far right teaparty wing of the GOP.

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they are not the insiders: they are simply entertainers or think they are.. Have you listened to Bill Crystol (spelling)? or how about Eric, on "the 5"? They are strong supporters of him. At least Bill way, I don't pay a lot of attention to these people. I listen or watch them for entertainment mainly and not to get honest information. Hannity is so far to the right, he makes Cruz look like a liberal. Beck has lost most of his base.
I agree that they are entertainers. My response was to the thread title and the OP ~ that the Democrats are not the ones that are 'smearing' Christie. Of course, anyone who runs is going to eventually get 'smeared' by their opponents whether it be those in their own party or the opposition party. That includes any Democrat who runs as well. It just seems to be the way elections work these days.

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Tea partiers, Paulbots, and extreme social conservatives never learn....

(Though Christie is a conservative. It has to do with the type of person and type of conservative he is.)
He is a conservative. But not necessarily a bat-shyte crazy conservative. Therefore, he may not get the nomination of the republican party.
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: texas
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The Democrat Party is a cancer on America. There is no other way of putting it.


Conservative Republicans have had a full on assault on Christie for months. I constantly hear people on the right, on this very forum, bad-mouth him.

Seems cancer is running rampant.
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