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Old 12-07-2013, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yet every drop of that gas eventually made it into the park ranger's tanks, which reveals just how much BS the "it cost $24 billion" talking point is. More like "it slightly delayed 24 billion from being spent".

And of course the CoC would prefer a cozy, uninterrupted line to government contracts.

It's hilarious to see Progressives defending private contractors who are getting fat on the government dole. truly, despicably, heinously hypocritical.

But so typical.
Like I said before, you don't have to convince me. Tell it to the US Chamber of Commerce and see how far you get with them.

They are all done with the teabaggers. Now we will get to see which of the shrinking bunch of big money supporters who paid for that decrepit bunch are going to jump ship next.

Here ya go; this is how much money the U.S. Chamber of Commerce spent in 2012 and where it went.
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000019798

… and in 2014, the teabaggers won't be getting a nickel of it.

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Old 12-07-2013, 11:41 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yet if you actually look at the Standards and Poors numbers you find that it's NOT real money they're talking about.

The $24 billion includes things like tickets to federal parks, passport fees and huge government purchases of livestock, bullets, whatever, ie: money that was going to be spend eventually and did get spent. Hence the neglidgible effect on the economy...

It's not like 24 billion was literally flushed down the toilet as the fabled *******ed talking points suggest.

Also keep in mind the government costs 10.5 billion A DAY to run, So by *******ed talking point standards we could say that the 14 day shutdown saved the government $123 billion.
How is it not real money ? you seem to be arguing that since it doesnt affect you, it isnt real.

and no, the 14 day shut down did not save money. The operation of our country still happens regardless of the shut down.

and i have yet to see anyone say money was "literally" flushed down the toilet, sounds like you are the one with fabricated talking points.
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:43 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Doesn't it ever get old coming up with excuses? You can't put metal rings in regular copy paper.

http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/con...0539458451.jpg



It was spent two weeks later.



Revenue is lost during a thunder storm.
excuses?you have spent 4 post talking about a signs and barrackeds then you go off and claim revenue lost means nothing.


and you just compared a government shut down to a thunder storm

you contradicted your own argument.
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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The $24 billion includes things like huge government purchases of bullets


I cut the whole quote down to these words...I didn't change the meaning, just dropped all other words and this is what stands out.

The American public has a problem finding ammo as they did a mere 5 years ago. It is now a commodity heavily regulated by the federal government. How does $24B go to the purchase of that which the American public can't purchase?

Does anyone else make sense of this?
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:51 AM
 
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excuses?you have spent 4 post talking about a signs and barrackeds then you go off and claim revenue lost means nothing.


and you just compared a government shut down to a thunder storm

you contradicted your own argument.
Unemployment numbers improved in November also.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:29 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Unemployment numbers improved in November also.
No one claimed they wouldnt.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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No one claimed they wouldnt.
Waters: Sequester Will Cause Over 170 Million Job Losses

Waters: Sequester Will Cause Over 170 Million Job Losses | Washington Free Beacon

That wasn't the budget debate but I couldn't resist.

Obama economic advisers: Shutdown will cost the economy 120,000 private-sector jobs in October

Obama economic advisers: Shutdown will cost the economy 120,000 private-sector jobs in October | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And yet, the CoC supported many Tea Party candidates in 2010 and 2012, and the TP hasn't changed its stance on anything since then. So it would seem the CoC will definitely support candidates who are extremists if it suits their purposes. The Tea Party has proven to be detrimental to business; that is the only reason the CoC is pulling its support.
detrimental to business? Prove it.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:40 AM
 
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The government shutdown cost $24 Billion dollars. A lot of that money was to go to American business and industry who hold government contracts for goods and services.

The shutdown produced needless layoffs and created economic crisis widely in the business community all across the United States. Large corporations and tiny local businesses were hurt, farmers who counted on their federal loans to get through the harvest were hurt, the transportation industry was hurt, and all research and development sectors were hurt.

And all of it was caused by the small tea party caucus in the House. There's no surprise the National Chamber of Commerce doesn't trust or support the teabaggers any more. They proved themselves to be a bunch of unreliable, irresponsible anarchists.
If it cost 24 billion then how much is lost each weekend when more of the government is shut down than during this shutdown?
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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I wonder how much the shutdown cost the town of West Yellowstone and any other town that`s heavily dependent on National Park tourism? Those towns are open on the weekends too. Imagine that.
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