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Old 12-19-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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Ohio Finds Noncitizens Voted in Presidential Election

Seventeen cases of noncitizens who cast ballots in last year's presidential election in Ohio will be recommended for prosecution by Secretary of State John Husted.

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Those cases were part of a broader investigation by Husted's office that discovered 274 more noncitizens on the state's voting rolls. They did not vote in the election, he said.

All of the noncitizens are in Ohio legally, Husted told the newspaper. Both state and federal laws bar non-citizens from voting.



Not surprising... expect more of this in 2014. There's too much on the line for some to just leave it up to the citizens to vote a certain way.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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They'll receive a letter reminding them that they are not allowed to vote?

Oh, come on. I am an immigrant non-citizen and I am fully aware that I am, under no circumstances, allowed to vote - not on a federal level, not on a state level, not on a local level. I am also aware that pretending that I am a US citizen to any government official or for any government service will result in revocation of my permanent residency.

Frankly, there aren't too many rules that need to be followed as an LPR. If you can't follow even the simple ones, then your status should most definitely be revoked.

I will say that the system doesn't always work overly well. Thus, I once received a notification that I was to serve jury duty. Obviously, I am ineligible, but there was a glitch in the system that, somehow, put me on the list. I declined and stated that I was not a US citizen. Never heard from them again.

Now, in order to vote, you don't just happen to be on a list. No, you actually have to get off your butt on go to the polling station. This seems to suggest utmost ignorance of the law - whether such ignorance is willful or simply based on a lack of awareness is another story.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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Staggering numbers - literally in the 10s!
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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I will say that the system doesn't always work overly well. Thus, I once received a notification that I was to serve jury duty. Obviously, I am ineligible, but there was a glitch in the system that, somehow, put me on the list. I declined and stated that I was not a US citizen. Never heard from them again.
Not a big deal - those lists are often compiled from DMV records as it was feared that people stayed off the voter registries to avoid jury duty. (I got a few jury summons as well.)
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Staggering numbers - literally in the 10s!
What is an acceptable number, in your opinion, to consider voter fraud a problem?
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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What is an acceptable number, in your opinion, to consider voter fraud a problem?
more then 0.00036%
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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What is an acceptable number, in your opinion, to consider voter fraud a problem?
Oh, it's a problem, all right - those 17 people broke the law. But the scope of the problem should be considered when suggesting countermeasures. There should be some sort of proportionality to the response. The current system has a 99.99964% success rate - that's considered fair-to-middlin' in most endeavors.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:27 PM
 
Location: College Hill
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more then 0.00036%
Tell 'em! Republicans will do ANYTHING to disenfranchise voters in a desperate (and probably futile) effort to win elections. They Be Toast!
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Did you forget to add five or six zeros to that 17? If not who cares.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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Tell 'em! Republicans will do ANYTHING to disenfranchise voters in a desperate (and probably futile) effort to win elections. They Be Toast!
Who does the GOP want to disenfranchise?

Non-citizens are not enfranchised.

And if you are talking about voter ID, recent polling shows ~70% of Americans want it including a slight MAJORITY of Democrats.
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