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Old 01-23-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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Can we tae that as a message that the citizenry wants a divided government? That they no longer want change? What would be your take?
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The VP gets a lot of attention. He will be in the Senate whenever there is a vote taken.
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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I think that means that the voters are not embracing the Democrats, but they are not embracing the GOP either. It still means that the Democrats control the Senate on account that VP Biden is a Democrat and he will be the one casting the tiebreaker. I still think, because of redistricting, the structure of the House and Senate are not going to change. I don't see the GOP gaining control of the Senate this year
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I think that means that the voters are not embracing the Democrats, but they are not embracing the GOP either. It still means that the Democrats control the Senate on account that VP Biden is a Democrat and he will be the one casting the tiebreaker. I still think, because of redistricting, the structure of the House and Senate are not going to change. I don't see the GOP gaining control of the Senate this year

Redistricting only impacts the House, not the Senate. With that being said I don't see the GOP gaining the Senate. The Democrats do have more seats to defend and there are more competive Dem held seats. While the GOP liekly picks up seats, it will likely need to be a 2010 type wave for the GOP to pick up the Senate and there is no indication at this point that will happen.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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it depends on who the gop nominates. if they nominate guys like the one in florida who wants to execute obama, then it'll be the same as the last go around
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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Redistricting only impacts the House, not the Senate. With that being said I don't see the GOP gaining the Senate. The Democrats do have more seats to defend and there are more competive Dem held seats. While the GOP liekly picks up seats, it will likely need to be a 2010 type wave for the GOP to pick up the Senate and there is no indication at this point that will happen.
There is every indication it will happen. The President's popularity is mired in the high 30s and early 40s and the map favors the GOP.

Recent polling in places like deep blue Michigan, Minnesota, and Oregon indicates that those seats are in play.

But if it makes you feel better to believe the fantasy that there's no chance the Senate goes Republican, go ahead!

I can tell you six seats the Republicans win sitting here today, assuming no major changes between now and November: West Virginia, Arkansas, Louisisana, Alaska, North Carolina and South Dakota.

If you don't believe me, maybe this will help you understand:

Obama's Job Approval Points to 2014 Trouble for Democrats | RealClearPolitics
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I'm not sure how much difference it will make who controls the Senate until 2016. You generally need 60 votes anyway, Anything the Senate does, also has to get though the House, which will almost certainly be R-controlled after 2014. And anything that gets through both, has to be signed by Pres. Obama. We'll have essentially a Mexican standoff until Jan, 2017. That's not necessarily a bad thing, either.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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There is every indication it will happen. The President's popularity is mired in the high 30s and early 40s and the map favors the GOP.

Recent polling in places like deep blue Michigan, Minnesota, and Oregon indicates that those seats are in play.

But if it makes you feel better to believe the fantasy that there's no chance the Senate goes Republican, go ahead!

I can tell you six seats the Republicans win sitting here today, assuming no major changes between now and November: West Virginia, Arkansas, Louisisana, Alaska, North Carolina and South Dakota.

If you don't believe me, maybe this will help you understand:

Obama's Job Approval Points to 2014 Trouble for Democrats | RealClearPolitics
I don't believe you about North Carolina. For several reasons.

1. Obama's job approval has been on the upswing for the past few weeks. It is unlikely that will change.
2. Kay Hagan has made a lot of friends while as a Senator, such that she already has NAR going to bat for her. Expect more of that when it gets closer to election day.
3. The GOP is going to get nailed again when the legislative session starts up again. They are going to have a hard time controlling their back benchers since the entire legislature is relatively inexperienced and moral monday's is going to hit them hard in the summer and fall, because of it.

The GOP just didn't recruit well for the race, they will lose.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Biden will have something to do besides washing his Trans-Am on the White House lawn.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:08 PM
 
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Redistricting only impacts the House, not the Senate. With that being said I don't see the GOP gaining the Senate. The Democrats do have more seats to defend and there are more competive Dem held seats. While the GOP liekly picks up seats, it will likely need to be a 2010 type wave for the GOP to pick up the Senate and there is no indication at this point that will happen.
I know how Senate elections are at-large and not district. Excuse the lack of punctuation for that error.

Anyway, I agree. I think nothing is going to change, again
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