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Old 03-31-2014, 11:25 AM
 
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It does reduce costs. It has preventive care and causes people to not go to the ER when they get sick. ER visits are a huge cost and the uninsured use the ER as the doctor.

"Boston Health Care for the Homeless tracked 119 chronically homeless people for five years. In that time, those 119 people racked up an astounding 18,834 emergency room visits, despite the fact that 33 of them died and seven were placed in a nursing home during that time. In Washington in 2002, 198 individuals generated 9,000 emergency room visits, or a little under one a week. At a minimum of $1,000 a visit, that's a heck of a medical bill that those hospitals are trying to collect from a homeless person."

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Not there are a lot of working people who cannot afford insurance or their insurance is no damn good. So guess what they have to use the ER. Meaning the taxpayers pay for it but it's way cheaper to do it by way of the ACA then by way of the ER.
I don't know why people keep repeating lies. Medicaid users are the biggest abusers of the ER. Obamacare adds to the Medicaid rolls, so it increases healthcare cost.

Oregon Study Exposes Another ObamaCare Falsehood: Rather Than Reduce Unnecessary ER Use, Medicaid Increases It - Forbes

 
Old 03-31-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Wrong. Most insurance policies did not have preventive care. You had things like acne, being pregnant or other conditions that caused insurance companies to cancel coverage prior to the ACA.

http://assets.aarp.org/rgcenter/health/fs146_myths.pdf

Study Challenges Myths About Frequent ER Users - US News

"Emergency room use is not a major contributor to the cost of Medicaid"

Dispelling myths about emergency department use: m... [Res Brief. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

"About 10 percent of nonelderly Medicaid patient ED visits are for nonurgent symptoms, compared with about 7 percent for privately insured nonelderly people"

"Diagnoses of acute respiratory and other common infections in children and injuries together account for about 53 percent of ED visits by children aged 0 to 12 covered by Medicaid and almost 60 percent of ED visits by privately insured children aged 0 to 12."

You just posted links that prove that people on Medicaid use the ER more often even though they have access to preventive care. Did you not read your own links?
 
Old 03-31-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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Nope, the left never tells lies...

LOL...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U


And lets not forget the lady who died because she had cancer and no insurance...oh wait...she had insurnce during that time....
 
Old 03-31-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Mine certainly didn't and it cost a fortune.
It didn't cover mammograms or Pap tests because "I wasn't sick",
Then I guess you should ask the Canadian government for better insurance.

My well visits have always been covered, under every private plan we have ever had.
 
Old 03-31-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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No, I realize how dumb your frothing hysterical response sounds.
The absolute reality of the cruel and expensive "dropped and denied" corporate system seems to have escaped the addled right-wing brain.
As a rightie, you still haven't explained why that system was so much better for everybody - please respond to that point.
So no one prior to ACA was treated for cancer.. thats your argument?
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