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Originally Posted by wutitiz
Wrong. Still logic challenged.
Again, your intimation was that the GOP base is racist ('uncomfortable with a big tent'). You still don't explain how it was that a black man rose to be the leading choice (for 5 weeks) for the top spot in what you claim is a group of racists.
Whether the field was weak or strong has ZERO bearing. Are you going to claim that if the Aryan Nations found themselves with a weak selection of white candidates for leadership, they might decide to put in a brother at the top spot until they can find someone better??? YBOL.
I already did it for you.
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
in an 8 way race, Cain got 26% at his height, that means 74% where against him.
Im not saying the GOP base is racist, but only that your argument is completely flawed.
If Herman Cain had been leading the pack 85% and the other 7 candidates had a combined 15%, then you would have a point.
65% of Americans still are unhappy with the job market, and 55% still disapprove of Obamacare. which equals the high water mark for that number.
And you thinks this equates into the nation, federally, wanting the GOP to run things? Look again. Congressional politics is one thing - and all "things" are local. People vote local issues about their districts, not as if they're voting for President. The Democratics have won the Presidency the last two cycles and will, I've not doubt, win the next cycle in 2016. The Democrat in the White House, no matter who he/she is, and no matter his/her color or gender ... will have a tough time dealing with an increasingly Anti-American Congress. But, at the end of the day ... the people deserve the government they elect.
Originally Posted by dsjj251 in an 8 way race, Cain got 26% at his height, that means 74% where against him.
Im not saying the GOP base is racist, but only that your argument is completely flawed.
If Herman Cain had been leading the pack 85% and the other 7 candidates had a combined 15%, then you would have a point.
Fail. Cain was leading an 8 way race with 26%. That does NOT mean that 74% were against him. It means that 74% preferred one of the other 7.
I appreciate you 'not saying the GOP base is racist,' but that is what the other poster said. To say such a thing after Herman Cain is absurd, and prima facie evidence of a self-deluded mind.
I do agree we are looking at some form of immigration that can, eventually lead to citizenship. That is one reason I am still watching Rubio. I might like to send all illegals back to where they came from, but I am a realist. We are going to have to realize this will not and can not be done. So we are going to have to look at alternatives.
For POTUS, this is critical to the GOP, and if the Dems want to play politics, they would insure, should the GOP seek it, to come up with reasons they cannot support the bill (by doing what all pols do-mixing poison stuff into it, they can use to validate their oposition).
Excellent point. South Carolina and Alabama are going red regardless of who's on the ballot. But Pennsylvania and Colorado, while purple, aren't ever going to swing red for the likes of Cruz or Santorum. Doubling down on the derp may help a Republican in the primaries, but it comes back to hurt them in the general.
Exactly.
As long as the Republicans keep voting for Tea Party idiots for the general election candidate, they will continue to lose, which is fine by me. Not one of the Tea Party candidates presented thus far has a clue as to what's going on with this nation or how to fix it - Hint: the answer is NOT to cut social safety nets, let big business run amok, and reduce women, blacks, gays, people of other religions, etc. to 2nd class citizens.
You can become overly dependent on stats, but if you have an established long term statistical pattern going in one direction, it's more probable that it will continue than that it will abruptly change without warning.
Amen. You drive change by bringing about proactive, positive reasons for the change. Not hoping and praying, while doing nothing about your platform or candidates to drive change.
And you thinks this equates into the nation, federally, wanting the GOP to run things? Look again. Congressional politics is one thing - and all "things" are local. People vote local issues about their districts, not as if they're voting for President. The Democratics have won the Presidency the last two cycles and will, I've not doubt, win the next cycle in 2016. The Democrat in the White House, no matter who he/she is, and no matter his/her color or gender ... will have a tough time dealing with an increasingly Anti-American Congress. But, at the end of the day ... the people deserve the government they elect.
Anyone can make a prediction. A prediction does not constitute an argument. That's why I avoid making them, or at least couch them in weasel words ('should be able to keep the house').
It's crazy to say that you have no doubt that a Democrat will win in 2016, 2.5 years away, when we don't even know yet who is going to be running, or what the conditions will be. It's prima facie evidence of a deluded thought process.
In the short term the GOP is in a strong position to keep the House until 2020 because of gerrymandering and they have a good shot at getting the senate in 2014. In 2016 it looks like their advantage will be gone. Hillary has a good chance of being president and Democrats will most likely retake the Senate. The long term trends favor Democrats.
In the short term the GOP is in a strong position to keep the House until 2020 because of gerrymandering and they have a good shot at getting the senate in 2014. In 2016 it looks like their advantage will be gone. Hillary has a good chance of being president and Democrats will most likely retake the Senate. The long term trends favor Democrats.
Happy "Sooper Tuesday" .... AKA- "Tea Party Toast Day".
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