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Old 06-11-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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He lost a Republican primary that had low turnout.
Seems there's some liberal confusion on that...
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Higher than normal voters ... Hmmmmm? I have a feeling a lot of Dems voted in that primary
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Do you consider this a bad thing?

Conservative leader Dave Brat is the strong voice we need to restore those values. Specifically, Dave believes the Declaration to be true. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights."

Dave has spent a life time learning and educating others about these fundamental rights and values. Dave respects and values every person he meets because he truly sees them as Children of God. Our Rights come from God and not from Government. Government is instituted to protect these rights.

I consider pushing religion in government and policy a bad thing, it is evident that he believes in exactly that.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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Democrats will run on Democrats how they would fix the health-care law.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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Ben Bernanke got it wrong because he forgot to account for God, or at least for the Protestant way of worshiping him.

That’s the basic argument of David Brat, the Virginia Republican who toppled House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) Tuesday. Before his foray into politics, Mr. Brat has spent his career as an economics professor at Randolph Macon College in Ashland, Va., where he wrote about typical economists’ fare such as the determinants of long-term growth.

In his argument against Mr. Bernanke, Mr. Brat draws on previous research titled “Economic Growth and Institutions: The Rise and Fall of the Protestant Ethic?” a 2004 paper in which he wrote that Protestantism “provides an efficient set of property rights and encourages a modern set of economic incentives” so “one might anticipate positive economic performance.”
David Brat to Bernanke: Don’t Underestimate the Value of Protestants - Real Time Economics - WSJ

What a nutjob. But then, nutjob-ism and Tea Party support do tend to positively correlate.


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No, there is no evidence that Democrats cross-voting elected Brat - and, in fact, there is evidence that they specifically did not.


https://twitter.com/ElectProject/sta...998720/photo/1
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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I consider pushing religion in government and policy a bad thing, it is evident that he believes in exactly that.
He's not pushing religion, his religion guides him. And the problem is?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights."
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Eric Cantor lost! That is so awesome, should be easy for the Democrats to beat the far right winger who beat Cantor.
haha, you liberals are so adorable. a corrupt establishment candidate lost and a conservative will replace him. the legislative branch will be that much better for it. the tea party will have that much more control in government going forward.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Cantor was defeated not by Brat, but by Democrats who crossed-over in the open primary with the intent of having Brat run in contrast to a much more moderate 'pro America' Democrat who better reflects the views of district residents.
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This result makes sense. I would not assume Cantor's loss is a signal of tea party resurgence. Primaries in VA are open to all, so many Democrats voted for Brat specifically to unseat Cantor. In addition, this district has gone for Obama in the past 2 presidential elections, so unlikely that it has suddenly become a tea party stronghold.

Hilarious to watch the GOPers cat-fighting.
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Higher than normal voters ... Hmmmmm? I have a feeling a lot of Dems voted in that primary ....
If Democrats showed up in large numbers to vote against Cantor, turnout should have spiked highest from 2012 in Democratic-leaning areas, with Cantor seeing an especially large drop-off in support. In fact, turnout rose slightly more in counties that voted more heavily for Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election.

Turnout expert Michael McDonald of the United States Elections Project found similar results analyzing precinct-level data Tuesday night, reporting GOP primary turnout was lowest in the most Democratic-leaning areas of the state.


The evidence of Democratic cross-over voting is weak even after narrowing to the precinct level to 10 locations in Henrico County, which all voted 60 percent or more for Cantor's general election opponent in the 2012 general election. If Democrats banded together to embarrass Cantor in the GOP primary, this is where it would be most evident. Indeed turnout did rise an average of 66 percent above the 2012 primary level in these precincts. But vote shares don't bear the rest of this out -- on average Cantor won 24 percentage points less support in these precincts, smaller than his 35-point drop in support statewide.



Did Democratic votes doom Eric Cantor?
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Our Rights come from God and not from Government. Government is instituted
to protect these rights.
(from the candidate's website, linked above)

So, the government has nothing to do with the establishment of our rights? The Bill of Rights is meaningless? Whatever other protections/rights the people have established for themselves via the U.S. Congress and/or state legislatures ... are meaningless/invalid? What Brit's saying and believes isn't much different than what the Islamic hard-liners say and I'm supposing, then, he favors the application of Sharia-like, but Christian regulation of our lives. The electorate has good reason to be concerned that someone who doesn't support or believe in our Constitution, Bill of Rights and other freedoms would stand a chance of being elected to high office.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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For those who are unaware, Eric Cantor, the majority leader in the House or Representatives, suffered a double digit loss in his primary election to the TEA party candidate.

The White House is now rushing out to explain that his loss:

White House: Immigration Didn't Sink Cantor | National Review Online

"A spokesman for President Obama rushed to assure House Republicans that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) didn’t actually lose because of his gestures toward Democrats on immigration reform."

Someone needs to tell NBC, the New Republic, The Hill, LA Times etc... about this, because they are out of step with Obama's spin on this:

Eric Cantor a Casualty of Immigration Reform - NBC News
Eric Cantor's Primary Loss to Dave Brat Mean Immigration Reform's Dead | New Republic
Cantor loss immigration reform death knell | TheHill
Eric Cantor's a lame duck, immigration reform is crippled*-*Los Angeles Times
Exactly!
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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(from the candidate's website, linked above)

So, the government has nothing to do with the establishment of our rights. The Bill of Rights is meaningless. Whatever other protections/rights the people have established for themselves via the U.S. Congress and/or state legislatures ... are meaningless/invalid. What he's saying isn't much different than Islamic hard-liners say and I'm supposing, then, he favors the application of Sharia-like, but Christian regulation of our lives. The electorate has good reason to be concerned that someone who doesn't support or believe in our Constitution, Bill of Rights and other freedoms would stand a chance of being elected to high office.
wow, not much different from Sharia law? Sharia law certainly doesn't believe in equality. If you believe that to be the case I would rather we live by the 10 commandments than Sharia law.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights."
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