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I especially like the part about how without Cantor, immigration reform is dead in the water. This is exactly what I mean by the Tea Party destroying the party that supports it. Demographics are changing in this country, and changing rapidly. Mainstream Republicans are aware of this reality and want to at least make an attempt to keep up with the changes, but the TP extremists will not allow that.
Republicans might hold this seat, but they are doomed in the long term. And Conservatives are so short-sighted that they don't realize the scorpion they took on their back has just sunk it's stinger into their necks.
They're taking the GOP down in the name of far right ideological purity. And the Republicans deserve the storm that's about to descend on them for giving them so much power to begin with. It's going to be fun to watch.
Yeah, I don't feel bad for the GOP. They tried to co-opt the tea party, but it will end up tearing the party apart. The GOP will still be around, but it will continue to lose elections until they moderate.
Did you forget that last week Biden said "the jobs are back, but we didn't say they'd be good jobs!"
What don't you understand about just now reaching the amount of jobs we had 7 years ago? That equates to 7 lost years, and on top of that the jobs are mostly service jobs which does not equate to the same income.
The average family has lost over $4k in yearly income over the last decade.
Oh sure, the market is climbing leaps and bounds... but this has no bearing on the average tax paying citizen.
The economy is being propped up by cheap money and steady injections of fiat currency. This will devastate our economy when the dollar looses de facto currency status.
im a ron paul supporter but I couldn't help but be incredibly annoyed at many of the ron paul nuts. you need to give some of them a sedative and tell them to wait until they can mature and have an adult conversation before they start ranting on and on. too much emotion.
Annoyance and politics always go hand in hand.... If you ever went to a Ron Paul or Libertarian rally, they are a cornucopia of America. We are not all John Galts of perfection
Open Immigration in recent, seems to be loosing popularity in Libertarian Party circles.
Agree, but the GOP never had any intention of doing anything on immigration reform which doesn't stand a chance as long as the GOP controls the House. Dirty truth is that the immigration mess benefits the GOP. Illegal immigration suppresses wages, thus improving the bottom line for American firms who are big backers of the GOP. Profits are more important to the GOP and its backers than good wages for Americans. The GOP base of low-wage white guys has been flummoxed for generations that unions are "commie" and further brainwashed by divide and conquer GOP Southern Strategy politics that it's better to work for chump change than to let a black guy have their lousy jobs.
The last thing the GOP wants is to enforce immigration laws against businesses who lure undocumented workers to come here. That's why then Gov. (now Sen.) Mike Johans (R-NE) demanded in 1998 the Clinton administration stop Operation Vanguard, which shut down meat packing plants in NE and IA by rounding up illegal workers who work for low pay, no benefits and no rights of any sort.
By 2003, under George W. Bush, immigration enforcement against illegal employers became non existent. The Bush administration regularly released undocumented immigrants rather than deport them back to their home countries.
Politically, illegal immigration enrages white bigots who make up the GOP base - it gets them to the polls. You need look no further than on this site to find just about every right winger blaming Democrats for illegal immigration, even though it's Democrats who enforce the law and GOP types ignoring it for greed. That's due to the GOP base being ignorant, racist and easily swayed by right wing blowhards and viral emails.
That's why the GOP will never do anything about immigration reform, even though most Americans want the problem solved.
I'm sorry. Enforce the law? Isn't it a Dem in power right now that is the cause of hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants pouring across our border, because they AREN'T enforcing the law?
Look at the monster the GOP has created in the Tea Party. They were the best thing when it gave them a majority in 2010 now they continue to eat the rest of the party, often with unelectable primary winners. At least Brat will most likely win.
Annoyance and politics always go hand in hand.... If you ever went to a Ron Paul or Libertarian rally, they are a cornucopia of America. We are not all John Galts of perfection
Open Immigration in recent, seems to be loosing popularity in Libertarian Party circles.
Do you support an "open borders" policy for immigration?
Yes
18% (328 votes)
Maybe
9% (160 votes)
No
73% (1323 votes)
Total votes: 1811
SMH
Most self described libertarians are actually conservatives who don't like the conservative label for whatever reason. Most libertarians who're actually familiar with the ideology are pro open borders. Hell, open borders is in the Libertarian Party platform. Restrictive immigration has to be one of the worst violations on civil liberties one can imagine. According to libertarianism, the government has no say on who and who can't live in a specified territory.
I'm sorry. Enforce the law? Isn't it a Dem in power right now that is the cause of hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants pouring across our border, because they AREN'T enforcing the law?
Net illegal immigration is zero. This is a fact you can look up on the interwebs.
Now that the post mortems have begun Eric Cantor seems to have fallen upon his own sword by forgetting the cardinal rule of politics; everything is local.
Senators can afford to tick off some aspect of their state's population long as a majority remain. OTOH House members who do not vote and or listen to their district are toast. Mr. Cantor (and his staff) apparently became too aloof and or comfortable, worse they simply didn't take any threats seriously.
When you look at establishment candidates that thus far have beaten back TP challengers one thing is clear; they got out early and fast to connect with members of their district.
In some ways you have to give Mr. Cantor credit in that took the risks regarding immigration reform knowing it ticked no small part of his constituency off.
Sadly once again the loons of the RP just don't get it and apparently never will. So this district will send yet another hate spewing idiot to Washington D.C. that will do nothing for the party but give it more bad names (are there any left?), and in the end regardless immigration reform along with a host of other things the TP dreads will happen anyway, with or without their votes.
All this does is give Democrats including the governor and others holding high office in VA a platform to push that state further to the left. In the end you'll have a few angry pockets that can and likely will be ignored.
On the one hand you do have to admire the persons of Mr. Cantor's district for their historic (if not stupid) votes. Throwing out one of the most powerful men in the RP if not government for a totally unknown idiot. Come the end of this year all the prestige and power to "deliver" for said district goes with Mr. Cantor.
SMH
Most libertarians who're actually familiar with the ideology are pro open borders. Hell, open borders is in the Libertarian Party platform. Restrictive immigration has to be one of the worst violations on civil liberties one can imagine. According to libertarianism, the government has no say on who and who can't live in a specified territory.
Shaking your head at what.....
I am merely saying Libertarians within the party do not always totally agree.
The platform has changed though:
"Platform states that Libertarians are prepared to welcome refugees, and the LP works against discriminatory policies. In addition it states that a free market requires the free movement of both capital and labor across borders. The platform does allow for control over the entry of people who pose a credible threat to security, health, or property."
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