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Regardless, while the Reps may not gain control of the Senate they are still going to gain A LOT of seats.
If Obama goes from 2008 full control to losing the house and senate by 2014.....that's a huge blow.
We pretty much see this the same way. it will be a blow and show the country how unhappy the people are with the current president. I would love to think the senate will go R. but I am not about to put my money on it.
So your argument is that its a huge blow because over 8 years the party of the president lost seats in mid terms ?
You do realize that has happened to every since president since the 1940's except GWB in 2002 ?
You've confused losing seats with losing control.
So I guess your saying that losing control of the house and Senate would be no big deal because it happens all the time? WTH?
I personally don't care if the dems lose control of the senate or not....meet the new boss....same as the old boss....
As such, I have a pretty impartial view and don't get drunk on koolaid and stagger in here predicting huge (unrealistic) republicans gains based upon a single polling outfit or how losing control of the Senate wouldn't be a big deal. lol.
Yep, they were dumb enough to vote for Obama a second time. Morons.
Dumber still was reporting polls that had no basis in reality. Romney's polls were bogus, as they were using demographic data that was a decade out of date. They might as well have just polled family members, and waited for the radical right to proclaim "victory is near".
PS: You are correct!
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Polls don't win elections. Electoral votes do. Romney has a very steep path to 270, and the momentum has topped out. Unless he can somehow run the table, it ain't happening.
Dumber still was reporting polls that had no basis in reality. Romney's polls were bogus, as they were using demographic data that was a decade out of date. They might as well have just polled family members, and waited for the radical right to proclaim "victory is near".
Actually, it's not dumb at all....it's intentional spin. So dishonest politicians yes....but not dumb.
Just like when Obama aides went on the offensive against the Clinton camp during the primary as being "racist". They didn't actually believe it, but what's that got to do with politics?
Republicans do it too, that's how Bush 2.0 torpedoed McCain in 2000 with some sort of gay smear campaign.
Now the rabid kool-aid drinkers that believed those polls because they REALLY REALLY wanted them to be true? Yeah, they are dumb. However, they were no dumber than the people that couldn't reconcile that Gore lost and blamed diebold machines in Ohio for cheating etc.
Seems like every lost election anymore was cheating by the same machines that they won the election on a few years before. Wierd huh?
The initials after the names might change but that's it. It's just a matter of which corporation is in charge of the puppet in the chair.
Lies, all lies.
Just look how Obama has shown how "green" and non-republican he is. He tricked Monsanto by making their former CEO the head of the FDA.
I mean, that's sheer brilliance! Who better to police those industries than a guy that knows all the inner workings.
Same tactic he used by making the GE CEO the head of the jobs council. I mean, who better than a guy that has off-shored more jobs than pretty much any other US company?
GE responded brilliantly by pushing for legislation offering massive tax credits to bring jobs back to the US....while paying no corporate taxes because they exploit loopholes and report their profits in foreign countries. Huzzah! Another victory for the little guy!
GOP Pickups in:
Montana
South Dakota
Louisiana
Arkansas
West Virginia
Alaska
I believe the Republicans will also win at least two of the following, from most likely pickup to least likely: North Carolina Iowa Michigan Minnesota New Hampshire Virginia Oregon
If Obama's approval rating remains as low as it is or continues to drop, we could very easily see a GOP pickup of ten Senate seats.
None of those states you listed have a chance in hell of going Republican.
So I guess your saying that losing control of the house and Senate would be no big deal because it happens all the time? WTH?
I personally don't care if the dems lose control of the senate or not....meet the new boss....same as the old boss....
As such, I have a pretty impartial view and don't get drunk on koolaid and stagger in here predicting huge (unrealistic) republicans gains based upon a single polling outfit or how losing control of the Senate wouldn't be a big deal. lol.
President Bush had both houses in 2001, and by 2008 he had neither.
President Clinton had control of both Houses in 1993 by 2000 he had lost both.
even in the 1990 mid term (Bush 1 midterm), The republicans lost 2 senate seats and 12 house seats.
in 1986 (regan second mid term) Democrats won 8 senate seats and 5 house seats. Meaning republicans lost the majority in the senate.
just to be clear, these are net gains.
Do i need to keep going or do you see my point ? Clinton and Bush both lost control of both chambers of congress. Reagan gained the senate and lost it. The only reason why Bush1 didnt is because he never had it to begin with.
Neither Bush1 or Reagan ever had control of the House
So to answer your question, yes it does happen all the time. mainly because senate seats are unbalanced.
We no longer have an odd, number of senators. I say we break them up 50/50 and chop their terms down to 4 years that way we have each state voting on 1 of their senators ever 2 years.
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