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Has the food costs gone up in the countries that do have GMO labeling? That is the easiest place to get your answer.
Regardless, it looks like it will probably be till Friday before we know for sure, and if it fails it will more than likely be back on the ballot in 2016 because it is important for people to know how their food is made. I personally like knowing what my food is made of.
It's a ridiculous argument. Food packaging is changed all the time, sometimes just for special events (like the Olympics or the World Cup or something like that) or the holidays. If food packaging was prohibitively expensive, Wheaties would have gone out of business a long time ago.
If food labeling was so expensive as to say no to this, why does BigAg waste millions of dollars every time on such campaigns? VTHokie, can you admit that you are falling for Monsanto and Gang propaganda hook, line, and sinker? I also find it funny that the more libertarian minded people who hate Monsanto, also hate GMO labeling.
If food labeling was so expensive as to say no to this, why does BigAg waste millions of dollars every time on such campaigns? VTHokie, can you admit that you are falling for Monsanto and Gang propaganda hook, line, and sinker? I also find it funny that the more libertarian minded people who hate Monsanto, also hate GMO labeling.
It's not propaganda, it's basic marketing and economic knowledge. If the entire country required GMO labeling, then you're right, it wouldn't cost anything because the cost of labeling would be much lower per unit. To apply this law to a state of just 3.9 million people will cause food prices to increase just so they can sell in Oregon.
It's not propaganda, it's basic marketing and economic knowledge. If the entire country required GMO labeling, then you're right, it wouldn't cost anything because the cost of labeling would be much lower per unit. To apply this law to a state of just 3.9 million people will cause food prices to increase just so they can sell in Oregon.
Yet in another post you admit this.
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Originally Posted by VTHokieFan
You're right. There is no proof that it would increase food prices because to get proof you would have to pass the measure and then visit the future to see if prices increased or not. That's not possible, so I used the economics knowledge I have to make my decision.
You can't claim something will go up if there is no proof that prices will go up. Considering ALL of these companies fighting GMO labeling also sell products in countries that require labeling means they already do GMO labeling. So where are these food cost increases we are hearing about?
Again, I want to know what my food is made of and the more honest we make companies be, the better it is for the consumer.
It's not propaganda, it's basic marketing and economic knowledge. If the entire country required GMO labeling, then you're right, it wouldn't cost anything because the cost of labeling would be much lower per unit. To apply this law to a state of just 3.9 million people will cause food prices to increase just so they can sell in Oregon.
Or to have lower food costs, then do what car companies have done for a long time now, and just apply California emissions standards to ALL states, not build cars with emissions components that are California compliant, and then build another set of cars for the other 49 states. So why can't companies just make up package labeling, then, for all 50 states while at the same time complying with Oregon's laws? What is so difficult about doing that when car companies have been doing the same thing ever since California went above and beyond EPA emissions standards?
You can't claim something will go up if there is no proof that prices will go up. Considering ALL of these companies fighting GMO labeling also sell products in countries that require labeling means they already do GMO labeling. So where are these food cost increases we are hearing about?
Again, I want to know what my food is made of and the more honest we make companies be, the better it is for the consumer.
I said that you can't provide PROOF either way. That doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. Look, don't spend your time trying to convince me, you need to convince the working class blue collar Democrats why your hipster, trendy ballot measure is good for them.
I said that you can't provide PROOF either way. That doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. Look, don't spend your time trying to convince me, you need to convince the working class blue collar Democrats why your hipster, trendy ballot measure is good for them.
If you can't provide proof either way then you can't claim it will increase prices. That is the error I am trying to shof you with your posts.
Besides GMO labeling will pass here, if not this year, then it will be in 2016, but it will pass here.
If you can't provide proof either way then you can't claim it will increase prices. That is the error I am trying to shof you with your posts.
Besides GMO labeling will pass here, if not this year, then it will be in 2016, but it will pass here.
I doubt 2016 will be the year, maybe 2018. If you're going to do a ballot measure, you can't just keep pushing it in front year after year after year. You have to be sure that the thing is going to win.
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