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Old 12-25-2007, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I'd be interested in seeing any statistics on charitable donations by party affiliation. .
I was being facetious. Conservatives and Republicans are two totally different things. I have learned to respect true Conservatives. I no longer associate them with the people running the country today.

As for parties, I would still say the Republicans do more because more Conservatives identify as Republicans than they would Democrats. Certainly the more religious Conservatives would be donating more.
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Old 12-26-2007, 07:58 AM
 
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Part of the ten point communist manifesto is a "progressive income tax". For those of you who are actually questioning the wisdom of having no tax, did you know that? Do you know what marx's ten point manifesto consists of? This is only 1 of those points. Dr Paul vehemently fights against the continued march into socialism..
Your arguement is "guilt by assosciation".

A government with no taxes would amount to no government at all. No police, no military, no justice system (back to what the Romans would call "lex talonis"- whoever has the biggest stick wins). Charities would not pick up all the slack, or perhaps you need to read a Dickens novel to get aquainted with that fact?
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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ron paul's website describes many of his positions. i have to say that many of his positions seem good. but why does he feel that waiters' tips should not be taxed?
His website is now addressing this.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/no-taxes-on-tips/
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:46 AM
 
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From his website:

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When you give someone a tip, you should not have to simultaneously tip the federal government.
EXACTLY.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Your arguement is "guilt by assosciation".

A government with no taxes would amount to no government at all. No police, no military, no justice system (back to what the Romans would call "lex talonis"- whoever has the biggest stick wins). Charities would not pick up all the slack, or perhaps you need to read a Dickens novel to get aquainted with that fact?
No one is advocating getting rid of ALL taxes. Income taxes are the topic du jour.
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Old 03-18-2008, 02:06 PM
 
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tips should not be taxed. its a ripoff. the IRS is about as petty as it comes. why not tax kids selling cool-aid. to me a tip is a way of saying thanks for service. the employer is paying the low wage. tax it only. personally anybody making less than 30k gross a yr shouldn't have a penny taken from them for taxes. that my 3cents, minus taxes= 2cts
Taxing tips can only be right if tips are part of the sale or wages. If a tip is truly a gift and given voluntarily then they should not be taxed. One can give $11,000 a year to as many people as they choose and the gift is tax free. So...if a tip is a gift then don't tax it. If gifts are subject to income tax we had better start reporting birthday gifts, Christmas gifts and etc. Tips are either gifts or they are wages. Let's get real and call a spade a spade or what it really is.David FoxNational Association of Restaurant Employees
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:59 PM
 
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Plaease post the pages that marx's says this from his writing ;not something from one of pauls supporters.Marx believed in communism which in the end would have no government after a number of years. One of the differences that distinguish it from socialism.Of course no communist country has gotten to this point becausee they can't give up power it seems and IMO wouldn't work.
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:40 PM
 
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Isn't the tax paid on tips an estimation of the amount of tips? How does the irs know how much a server is getting in tips...they've been traditionally cash. I guess RP believes this gives the irs too much power...and i agree.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:12 AM
 
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Yes...IRS knows how to tell how many tips a server receives. They simply audit the credit card sales, determine the average percentage of tips paid and apply that to your total sales and now they have you. Brinkerts Corp just got hit for over $30,000,000 due to servers under reporting their tips. The next thing is the sales tax folks will start charging sales tax on tips. Why not, if tips are considered part of the deal why shouldn't they charge sales tax?

David @ National Association of Restaurant Employees
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:31 AM
 
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Why not just put sales tax on all salary compenstion then.Compensatioin is compansation and if part of your income it shukld be taxed as such.Why would bonuses be taxed if tips are not taxed as income.
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