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12-27-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by msaRick
If he gets the nomination, the Republicans are done.
Fiscal conservatives won't vote for him becuase he spends and taxes like any Democrat.
Moderates won't vote for him becuase he won't shutup about Jesus.
Imigration conservatives won't vote for him because he loves illegals.
The same holy-rollers who gave the GOP a boost in '04 will sink the party if they vote him in on the Primary. If he does manage to win in the general, it will be no different than having a Democrat in the Whitehouse anyways.
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i think that about sums it up!!  if he got the nomination, i would suspect that republican voter turnout would be unusually low.
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12-27-2007, 03:52 PM
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It sounds to me like the real loser here isn't socially conservative Republicans or mainstream Democrats, but the Wall Street class. They are the ones being taken for granted, and they don't like it. Their issues are shaping up to be relatively unimportant or even repulsive to average Americans.
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12-27-2007, 04:13 PM
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Location: Minnysoda
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Vote Demeocrat! (We'll be a big step closer to the Revolution)
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12-27-2007, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by msaRick
If he gets the nomination, the Republicans are done.
Fiscal conservatives won't vote for him becuase he spends and taxes like any Democrat.
Moderates won't vote for him becuase he won't shutup about Jesus.
Imigration conservatives won't vote for him because he loves illegals.
The same holy-rollers who gave the GOP a boost in '04 will sink the party if they vote him in on the Primary. If he does manage to win in the general, it will be no different than having a Democrat in the Whitehouse anyways.
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Exactly! I've always considered myself a libertarian Republican (fiscal conservatism is at the top of my list, but I'm also socially to the left), but if Huckabee were to win the GOP nomination, I'd vote for Clinton or Obama. I hope Republican primary voters understand that the party is already heading into 2008 at a distinct disadvantage in the general election, so it can't hang its hat on the old Southern Strategy that worked for Bush.
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12-27-2007, 04:23 PM
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Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I am a fiscal conservative and social moderate. I tend to lean Republican because of economic issues. I am not a big fan of Bush because he has betrayed everything our party originally stood for. That said, I think it would be just as much of a mistake to nominate Mike Huckabee as it would Rudy Guilani. We need a candidate that will address gay marriage and abortion in order to get that essential evangelical vote. However, we cannot have a candidate that runs his entire campaign on those issues and ignores the fiscal/economic conservative wing of the Republican party. If either Huckabee or Guiliani get the nomination, it will be disaster come November.
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12-27-2007, 06:02 PM
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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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If the Huckster wasn't a religious nut that likes to pardon rapist and killers, his economics would be OK with me as a liberal Democrat (except on the few issues I am conservative on).
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12-28-2007, 07:20 AM
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Location: Atlanta, GA
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Huck isn't getting any love from the GOP establishment because, ironically, he's too much of a Christian. He's just a Christian in the good way.
He doesn't come across as spiteful or hateful or belligerent. He doesn't try to dehumanize and demonize people because they accept jobs without the proper documents. And he probably believes that "to those who are given much, much is expected". Your average Country Club Republican just isn't OK with that.
If it comes down to Huckabee v. Obama, I vote Obama but not without serious consideration of Huckabee. If it's Huckabee v. Clinton, that's easy; Huckabee without question.
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12-28-2007, 08:25 AM
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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backfist
Huck isn't getting any love from the GOP establishment because, ironically, he's too much of a Christian. He's just a Christian in the good way.
He doesn't come across as spiteful or hateful or belligerent. He doesn't try to dehumanize and demonize people because they accept jobs without the proper documents. And he probably believes that "to those who are given much, much is expected". Your average Country Club Republican just isn't OK with that.
If it comes down to Huckabee v. Obama, I vote Obama but not without serious consideration of Huckabee. If it's Huckabee v. Clinton, that's easy; Huckabee without question.
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Us Democrats will try to arrange for you to be able to vote for Obama.
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12-28-2007, 07:32 PM
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Location: Boise
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Huckabee is a democrat who hates abortion and gays. GOP be damned if he gets the nomination, I'm going third party.
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12-28-2007, 07:34 PM
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Location: Boise
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Originally Posted by Magnulus
It sounds to me like the real loser here isn't socially conservative Republicans or mainstream Democrats, but the Wall Street class. They are the ones being taken for granted, and they don't like it. Their issues are shaping up to be relatively unimportant or even repulsive to average Americans.
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Without Wall street we are the Soviet Union. People like to rag on corperate types, but they're the reason America is where it is today, or maybe ten years ago.
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