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View Poll Results: For whom would you vote?
Hillary Clinton 54 51.43%
Rand Paul 51 48.57%
Voters: 105. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-21-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Hillary Clinton has more baggage than Samsonite. I just finished reading Blood Sport by James Stewart, which was a book from 1996 (IRRC) about the Clintons. It turns out that Bill had only peripheral involvement in most of the scandals. He didn't care about money; he was only interested in politics and women. Whitewater, cattlegate, travelgate, filegate, etc. were all Hillary's babies. The only scandal where Bill was central was 'troopergate,' which had to do w/ his use of state troopers to procure women.

Travelgate was arguably the worst, where she tried to use the FBI to railroad a longtime WH civil servant so that she could get her friends to take over his office.

 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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I doubt we will ever know because I don't think Paul will be the choice, but if it did boil down to the two, You are going to be in for a huge shock in my opinion. Wishing for something and be realistic about it are 2 different things. Let me ask you, if you are so sure, what makes you think she would win in a landslide?
Mathematics. How is the GOP going to infiltrate the Blue Wall? Rand Paul or any of the extremists has no chance at winning the states that went Blue for Obama. Hilary is probably going to be even more popular in a 2016 national election than Obama was in 2008.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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Mathematics. How is the GOP going to infiltrate the Blue Wall? Rand Paul or any of the extremists has no chance at winning the states that went Blue for Obama. Hilary is probably going to be even more popular in a 2016 national election than Obama was in 2008.
Case in point, my mom is one of the most politically apathetic people I know, and even she will go out and vote if Hillary runs and wins the primary
 
Old 09-22-2014, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Hillary is going to have to explain her lie to the father of dead Navy Seal Ty Woods:
Fallen SEAL's Father: Hillary Told Me 'We're Going Arrest ... The Man That Made The Video' At Funeral

She will have to be hermetically sealed on the campaign trail, in order to avoid all the questions about all of her baggage.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Mathematics. How is the GOP going to infiltrate the Blue Wall? Rand Paul or any of the extremists has no chance at winning the states that went Blue for Obama. Hilary is probably going to be even more popular in a 2016 national election than Obama was in 2008.
Following the constitution makes one an extremist? You're lost.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 08:24 AM
 
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Rand paul would have no chance
 
Old 09-22-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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The fact of the matter is no Paul will ever sit behind the desk in the Oval Office. I am sure when he runs his supporters will be the same supporters that backed Ron Paul and I can already hear them howling that the USA is doomed without him and the GOP cheated to keep him from getting the Nomination. The GOP needs to find someone Moderates and Indes can back, if the GOP runs a Libertarian or Tea Party candidate the Dems will win in a landslide.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The fact of the matter is no Paul will ever sit behind the desk in the Oval Office. I am sure when he runs his supporters will be the same supporters that backed Ron Paul and I can already hear them howling that the USA is doomed without him and the GOP cheated to keep him from getting the Nomination. The GOP needs to find someone Moderates and Indes can back, if the GOP runs a Libertarian or Tea Party candidate the Dems will win in a landslide.
Hows the status quo working? Oh that's right we need a special person who can make horrible policies work because its always about the person and never ever about the policies.
The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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If the GOP really does put up Rand Paul against Hillary Clinton in 2016, they're going to lose even worse than Romney did to Obama in 2012.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Hows the status quo working? Oh that's right we need a special person who can make horrible policies work because its always about the person and never ever about the policies.
The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results.
The definition of insanity is believing that the Reps in Washington and in the State Legislatures actually do the work of the People, and even worse condoning the ability of Big business and other power brokers with clout and money to buy our Reps and subvert the will of the People. Rand is never going to be President, move on or get out of the way. Chew on that reality for a while and let me know how that tastes when it comes back up
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