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Unread 12-29-2007, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Boise
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He can't turn on me because I'm a republican, and never considered supporting him, I think all the Dems have issues, as do most Republicans.
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Unread 12-29-2007, 02:30 PM
 
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^Obama getting the GOP nomination? What!?
In consideration of socialist type care Obama = Hilliary. Both will be HUGE spenders of your tax dollars on socialist care. In terms of polling numbers, Hilliary is higher BUT I believe that the GOP will support Obama because of his attraction to the people. There are many people who "hate" Hilliary as much as there are supporters . There is not that many people who "hate" Obama and so he will seem to be a safer GOP nomination then Hilliary. Hilliary will MORE than likely come in as his VP... she is after power and fame.. being the first female VP is better than nothing for her... As I see it, it will be Obama and Hilliary as both are pretty much the same "person".. they want to spend and have LOTS of corporations that back both of them...
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Unread 12-29-2007, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Maine
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In consideration of socialist type care Obama = Hilliary. Both will be HUGE spenders of your tax dollars on socialist care. In terms of polling numbers, Hilliary is higher BUT I believe that the GOP will support Obama because of his attraction to the people. There are many people who "hate" Hilliary as much as there are supporters . There is not that many people who "hate" Obama and so he will seem to be a safer GOP nomination then Hilliary. Hilliary will MORE than likely come in as his VP... she is after power and fame.. being the first female VP is better than nothing for her... As I see it, it will be Obama and Hilliary as both are pretty much the same "person".. they want to spend and have LOTS of corporations that back both of them...
Two questions:

1.) What do you mean by "socialist?"

2.) Do you understand what the GOP is? GOP is short for "Grand Ol' Party," a euphemism for the Republican Party. Obama is running in the Democratic Party. So how do you figure he is going to get the GOP nomination?
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Unread 12-29-2007, 02:53 PM
 
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Wikipedia has a good definition of it:

1) Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community... In this case your income tax going to support MORE than just government functions.. but going to entitlement programs...

2) I meant democratic nomination... GOP is easier to type then typing the whole thing even though it implies republicans, in this case, I was implying democrat.
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Unread 12-29-2007, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Wikipedia has a good definition of it:

1) Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community... In this case your income tax going to support MORE than just government functions.. but going to entitlement programs...

2) I meant democratic nomination... GOP is easier to type then typing the whole thing even though it implies republicans, in this case, I was implying democrat.
And yet they have all these corporations backing them. Since when did corporations decide to endorse the socialist revolution?
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Unread 12-29-2007, 03:36 PM
 
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Since socialist care relies on corporation to "manage" the socialist care by tax-payer funds... Medicare doesn't rely on governments to dispense medical care... it relies on corporations... I am surprise you don't know this...
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Unread 12-29-2007, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Tolland County- Northeastern CT
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Obama seems like an Ambitious Chameleon - spouting out wondrous rhetoric without little to back it up. He takes no stands really on any issues- is worse then Hilary on this. His rather nebulous anti gay message is to say the least troubling....

Charismatic- but not really qualified to be President today. Not a populist- but more of a caretaker for the rich and corporations.
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Unread 12-29-2007, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Boise
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In consideration of socialist type care Obama = Hilliary. Both will be HUGE spenders of your tax dollars on socialist care. In terms of polling numbers, Hilliary is higher BUT I believe that the GOP will support Obama because of his attraction to the people. There are many people who "hate" Hilliary as much as there are supporters . There is not that many people who "hate" Obama and so he will seem to be a safer GOP nomination then Hilliary. Hilliary will MORE than likely come in as his VP... she is after power and fame.. being the first female VP is better than nothing for her... As I see it, it will be Obama and Hilliary as both are pretty much the same "person".. they want to spend and have LOTS of corporations that back both of them...
I asked this because the GOP = Republican. I agree that these dems are socialist by nature. Universal fill in the blak, esp. Hillary. Assuming Obama gets the nomination of the dems under no circumstance would Hillary ever run for vp, she is much to power hungry. And I have no idea who would run with her because she seems to alienate her fellow dems. It was either Biden or Richardson when asked if they would be her running mate responded by saying that if she got the nomination there would be no room for a running mate.
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Unread 12-29-2007, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Since socialist care relies on corporation to "manage" the socialist care by tax-payer funds... Medicare doesn't rely on governments to dispense medical care... it relies on corporations... I am surprise you don't know this...
Got it. So the pharmaceutical corporations are heavy GOP backers to get into that coffin of Republican socialism?
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Unread 12-29-2007, 06:21 PM
 
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Justin-------I saw the actual interview on tv where Biden stated he would not be on the ticket with Hillary.

His words were--------"I doubt there would be room in a Hillary Presidency for a Vice President"
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