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Old 12-16-2014, 01:11 PM
 
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I don't believe HRC will run. She appears unwell in some of her public appearances of which she's hardly done any since leaving SoS. I believe she went a year+ not making any public appearances before she gave a speech last year this time. If she does run I don't see her having the stamina for a brutal campaign schedule.

As for the minority vote, it is not reliably democratic when it comes to asians (including southeast asians) and hispanics, and blacks won't be rallied like they were for obama unless there is another AA on the ticket (some people have been predicting HRC-cory booker ticket but I don't see it).
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:23 PM
 
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Cory Booker won't bring much to the table. And the anti-Wall Street voters won't exactly warn to the North Jersey Wall Street backer. Plus he comes across as too Obamaesque in terms of age, years of office and the fact that he has more rhetoric than accomplishment.

I agree that minority voting might not be as strong and definitely won't be as uniform so the Dems really need to make some play or working class white voters. Who were once their base.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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she supported it and she has to defend it come 2016..............she has to tap dance a lot since obamacare is unpopular and the main reason the democrats lost the senate last month.
No she doesn't. She can play off that had she been elected she would have done it differently. And campaign on how she wants to change it. She can do it pretty plausibly too.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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4. Keep up opposition to projects like the Keystone Pipeline which would, at the very least, bring many high-paying, short-term construction jobs to this country and, over the long-haul probably help to keep oil prices down.
I just read that Mitch McConnell is going to make Keystone his first 2015 Senate issue. He says it has bi-partisan support.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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No she doesn't. She can play off that had she been elected she would have done it differently. And campaign on how she wants to change it. She can do it pretty plausibly too.


ahhh the details she has to face.....tell me what she would change in Obamacare without admitting fatal flaws?


isn't Hillary campaigning to change Obamacare admitting it is a failure or it has many flaws? that's is the legacy of Obama....LOL



just saying had she been elected she would have done it differently without details won't work in the primaries or general election.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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Indeed. If it has flaws, which it - Obamacare - most assuredly does. Then acknowledging the flaws, even packaged with ways she would fix the law, is very Kerryish. You know, I was against it, before I was for it, before I was against it...or some such tomfoolery.

Solid point.
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ahhh the details she has to face.....tell me what she would change in Obamacare without admitting fatal flaws?


isn't Hillary campaigning to change Obamacare admitting it is a failure or it has many flaws? that's is the legacy of Obama....LOL



just saying had she been elected she would have done it differently without details won't work in the primaries or general election.
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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ahhh the details she has to face.....tell me what she would change in Obamacare without admitting fatal flaws?


isn't Hillary campaigning to change Obamacare admitting it is a failure or it has many flaws? that's is the legacy of Obama....LOL



just saying had she been elected she would have done it differently without details won't work in the primaries or general election.

She has no worries "admitting fatal flaws" because she wasn't president. It will be very easy to say, "Told you so. If you'd elected me instead, I would have done it differently."

And she's not campaigning to change Obamacare yet because she's not campaigning yet because she never even said if she was running yet. And I never said she wouldn't give details. She will have to. But it's two years away and I don't have a crystal ball, unfortunately.
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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She has no worries "admitting fatal flaws" because she wasn't president. It will be very easy to say, "Told you so. If you'd elected me instead, I would have done it differently."

And she's not campaigning to change Obamacare yet because she's not campaigning yet because she never even said if she was running yet. And I never said she wouldn't give details. She will have to. But it's two years away and I don't have a crystal ball, unfortunately.
Well she has trouble admitting stuff about NAFTA, her long record of corporatism, past lies of "taking those profits", hawkish attitude and so on and so forth.

Frankly, no real liberal should be able to stomach "George Bush in a wig", it's only the party loyalists that are excited about her.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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She has no worries "admitting fatal flaws" because she wasn't president. It will be very easy to say, "Told you so. If you'd elected me instead, I would have done it differently."

And she's not campaigning to change Obamacare yet because she's not campaigning yet because she never even said if she was running yet. And I never said she wouldn't give details. She will have to. But it's two years away and I don't have a crystal ball, unfortunately.


Hillary and Obama campaigned in 2008 for a national healthcare reform of a big government takeover. Hillarycare failed in 1993 and its not that much different than Obamacare.


If she runs and I know she will, she will have a huge problem trying to defend Obamacare or flip flopping of running away from it.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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Obama ran tying himself to ACA in 2012, and he won 61.7% of electoral votes.
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