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Old 12-16-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Obama ran tying himself to ACA in 2012, and he won 61.7% of electoral votes.


Obama was a sitting President with no challenge in his party and the country blaming Bush for the economy still and giving Obama the benefit of the doubt.

Obamacare kicked in after 2012 election and the public discovered how Obama and the Democrats deceived and lied to the public and the reason is very unpopular and the reason the democrats lost the senate in 2014.


Unless the democrats can deceive the public again and make obamacare popular by 2016, I don't know how can you spin this but you are trying here with the left talking points....lol
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Silly Pubs! Obama's star is rising once again. His immigration action bumped his approval among Hispanics by 15% and did nothing to drop it with Whites. The economy is steaming along and people are noticing with big increases in consumer confidence. Gas prices are way down and Americans actually feel a bit ahead this year. Obamacare is not nearly as unpopular as the Pubs would like to think it is. Millions are enrolled and millions more are on Medicaid. In short, Obama will see a 10% gain in his job approval over the coming months. He will not be the pariah that Pubs hope he will come 2016.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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Hellion, More than 10 million got coverage, either direct ACA or Medicaid related. How do you think they will vote? How about parents of young 20 somethings now on their plan? How about the 20 somethings?

If ACA was going to harm POTUS Dems, 2012 would have been a huge GOP POTUS win. The inverse happened.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama was a sitting President with no challenge in his party and the country blaming Bush for the economy still and giving Obama the benefit of the doubt.

Obamacare kicked in after 2012 election and the public discovered how Obama and the Democrats deceived and lied to the public and the reason is very unpopular and the reason the democrats lost the senate in 2014.


Unless the democrats can deceive the public again and make obamacare popular by 2016, I don't know how can you spin this but you are trying here with the left talking points....lol
Or then again... maybe the public simply did not like Romney (and still doesn't). Lol.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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Silly Pubs! Obama's star is rising once again. His immigration action bumped his approval among Hispanics by 15% and did nothing to drop it with Whites. The economy is steaming along and people are noticing with big increases in consumer confidence. Gas prices are way down and Americans actually feel a bit ahead this year. Obamacare is not nearly as unpopular as the Pubs would like to think it is. Millions are enrolled and millions more are on Medicaid. In short, Obama will see a 10% gain in his job approval over the coming months. He will not be the pariah that Pubs hope he will come 2016.

Obama's approval numbers is similar to W Bush after 6 years.


if congress handles immigration by the U.S. Constitution explain how the Republican just kicked the democrats butts in the senate and kept the house?


Don't Hispanics know its congress that can only reform immigration? i guess the nation spoke and they don't want amnesty or open borders.



yeah keep spinning about obamacare.....i guess you cn repeat it over and over and believe it.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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Hellion, Until the GOP pivots to the economy and away from social conservs, they cannot crack the Blue Wall, and that makes the math to 270 about equal to winning Powerball. ACA is great to rile the base, but Not the Blue Wall.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:44 PM
 
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Or then again... maybe the public simply did not like Romney (and still doesn't). Lol.



no sitting President in modern times has lost re-election without a challenge within the party.


An incumbent President has a huge advantage.......Reagan beat an incumbent President but Ted Kennedy pretty much divided the democrat party by challenging Carter in 1980.....and Bill Clinton beat Bush Sr. but Ross Perot had to divide the conservative vote.


Romney got almost 61 million votes, I hardly call that the public not liking Romney. That's more votes than what Bill Clinton got.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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Hellion, Until the GOP pivots to the economy and away from social conservs, they cannot crack the Blue Wall, and that makes the math to 270 about equal to winning Powerball. ACA is great to rile the base, but Not the Blue Wall.


I disagree......in the last 4 Presidential elections, BOTH parties have split 2-2.....and the GOP has the house and senate and the majority of the governorships in the nation. I say they don't have to change much.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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61 million, but just 38.3% of the 270.the # that counts.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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61 million, but just 38.3% of the 270.the # that counts.


Like i said, both parties have split 2-2 the last 4 presidential elections. Very hard to beat an incumbent President without a hard challenge within the party in the primaries.


GOP has the house, the senate and the majority of the governorships in the nation. I say they must be doing things better than the Democrats.
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