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I love it too. But the freakin' Republicans better DO SOMETHING! Or they're gonna lose it all again in just a few years. I will not support or vote for any Republican who is a no good, lazy ass, talk out of both sides of their mouth, entitled moron who quickly forgets why she/he was voted in, WHO voted them in, or what promises they made to get where they are.
I don't disagree with you that politicians suck.
The problem is, once a candidate is selected, the left comes out and votes for the Democrat candidate. In lockstep.
Right leaning folks tend to have morals and standards not seen on the left so if the candidate doesn't represent their values, the right stays home or votes libertarian etc.
Thus the reason democrats have so much power over time.
Unfortunately, that needs to change if we want to keep the far left from getting in power again.
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And this would be why the House has been under Republican control sine 2012? Because the Democrats won?
The truth is not known to you.
If a Majority of the american public voted for Democrats and yet republicans control a majority of seats, it would suggest that a majority of Americans prefer Democrats does it not ????
I'd be nice to see the number of representatives actually reflect the popular vote of the people instead of reflecting Republican successes in gerrymandering.
It would be great if district lines were that of the county/parish they represent.
I'd be nice to see the number of representatives actually reflect the popular vote of the people instead of reflecting Republican successes in gerrymandering.
And you seem to think that the democrats don't indulge in gerrymandering?
If a Majority of the american public voted for Democrats and yet republicans control a majority of seats, it would suggest that a majority of Americans prefer Democrats does it not ????
Apparently not true or the democrats would have gained seats. That is how elections actually work, not the way you pretend that they do.
I'd be nice to see the number of representatives actually reflect the popular vote of the people instead of reflecting Republican successes in gerrymandering.
They represent the popular vote in each of their districts as the constitution intended.
If a Majority of the american public voted for Democrats and yet republicans control a majority of seats, it would suggest that a majority of Americans prefer Democrats does it not ????
Not it doesn't. All it means is that Democrats won more convincingly in their elections within their own districts.
And you seem to think that the democrats don't indulge in gerrymandering?
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Apparently not true or the democrats would have gained seats. That is how elections actually work, not the way you pretend that they do.
It certainly was true in 2012. In 2012, Democratic candidates for the US house received 59,645,531 votes and Republican candidates received 58,228,253 votes, yet Republican got 234 seats and Democrats got 201 seats.
So you get 1.42 million fewer votes, yet you get a 33 seat advantage? That doesn't seem very "representative" to me - does it to you?
And sure, in 2014 Republicans got more votes than the Democrats, but if all were even the percentages say Republicans should currently hold a 25 seat advantage over the Democrats, not the 59 seat advantage they actually have.
The Republicans haven't won over American voters to get control of the US House to the degree they have - they've gerrymandered their way to it.
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I think sadly, Americans keep switching back and forth hoping that the people they elect will actually listen to them.
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