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Old 12-18-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Interesting. The next thought is just that, a thought. Could this historical margin just be the 'bottom', or end, so to speak, of the great progressive tsunami (in the sense of a stealthy storm surge) that washed over America beginning a ~100 years ago? Does this indicate a beginning of the swing back to conservatism in this country?

Let's meet back here in 10 or 15 years. That ought to be long enough to see if this was a momentary pause, or a real sea change.
On one hand the Democrats have made a series of blunders that have harmed them. We all know the list, starting with the passage of Obamacare on a pure partisan basis. Reportedly Obamacare was a big factor in McSally's win. I doubt we can count on them continuing to make so many blunders.

OTOH if the GOP continues to run candidates who are not white and male, we will continue to cut into the lock that Democrats have had on the non-white and even the single female vote. The GOP actually won the Asian vote in 2014.

Asian vote breaks for Republicans in midterms - Washington Times

Obama won it by 73% in 2012. It has been shown over and over that white male conservatives will vote for a non-white or non-male conservative candidate. But non-white voters are wary of voting for a party that is perceived as 'whites only.'
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What do you mean by that? 1 representative for every county/parish in the US?
If they are allocated the same amount of reps as there are counties/parish, but there are usually more counties than reps to the US House.

The state legislature would then combine counties to make a district, if there are more than they have reps. Not some weird puzzle piece, to catch the right voters.

Why did democrats start the gerrymandering crap in the first place? It is now backfiring on them, as the nation gets more conservative.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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If they are allocated the same amount of reps as there are counties/parish, but there are usually more counties than reps to the US House.

The state legislature would then combine counties to make a district, if there are more than they have reps. Not some weird puzzle piece, to catch the right voters.
What do you do with a country like Los Angeles County that has a population of 10 million? Why should the 10 million people of Los Angeles county only get one rep in the People's House?
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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What do you do with a country like Los Angeles County that has a population of 10 million? Why should the 10 million people of Los Angeles county only get one rep in the People's House?
I'm pretty sure each district represents around 670k people or so...
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What do you do with a country like Los Angeles County that has a population of 10 million? Why should the 10 million people of Los Angeles county only get one rep in the People's House?

Because that is their little part of the world. Why should their much different values, effect those in rural areas that have much different needs, in their little piece of the world.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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It certainly was true in 2012. In 2012, Democratic candidates for the US house received 59,645,531 votes and Republican candidates received 58,228,253 votes, yet Republican got 234 seats and Democrats got 201 seats.

So you get 1.42 million fewer votes, yet you get a 33 seat advantage? That doesn't seem very "representative" to me - does it to you?


And sure, in 2014 Republicans got more votes than the Democrats, but if all were even the percentages say Republicans should currently hold a 25 seat advantage over the Democrats, not the 59 seat advantage they actually have.


The Republicans haven't won over American voters to get control of the US House to the degree they have - they've gerrymandered their way to it.
Gerrymandering, would that include Nanny Pelosi and multiple California districts that constantly have been changed to support the democrats?

Have you considered that democrats seem to congregate in a given area and vote differently (for fewer candidates) than the rest of their states? Or do only democrats "represent" areas? Now that doesn't seem very fair in its assessment.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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What do you do with a country like Los Angeles County that has a population of 10 million? Why should the 10 million people of Los Angeles county only get one rep in the People's House?
Why should they get more representation than any of their neighbors? It is geographical you know.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:55 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure each district represents around 670k people or so...
Yeah, but BentBow thinks that LA County and its 10 million people should only get 1 Representative because "that is their little part of the world. Why should their much different values, effect those in rural areas that have much different needs, in their little piece of the world."

He thinks a rural person should have 1000 times more influence in the People's House than an urban person.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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Because that is their little part of the world. Why should their much different values, effect those in rural areas that have much different needs, in their little piece of the world.
There are 3,144 counties in the country. Some states have many (Texas has 254, Georgia has 159), some have few (Massachusetts has 14, Delaware has 3).


LA County and the State of Georgia have the same population - 10 million people. Do you really think it's fair that the 10 million people of Los Angeles should have 1 representative in the People's House while the 10 million people of Georgia have 159 representatives in the People's House?
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Old 12-18-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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I'd be nice to see the number of representatives actually reflect the popular vote of the people instead of reflecting Republican successes in gerrymandering.
I love how some people think that only republicans gerrymander districts!

Did you ever wonder how that little traitor, Luis Gutierrez, keeps getting re-elected? The corrupt Illinois democrat machine gerrymandered a district just for Luisito. Got to give those IL dems credit---they know exactly where people with the IQ of a turnip live. Just look at the strangely shaped district that he has. I feel bad for the intelligent people who live in that district. It must be depressing to have the majority keep re-electing a traitor who tells people that he is in congress to serve illegals---the heck with Americans!
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