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Old 02-15-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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BONITA SPRINGS, Fla. -- Two years ago, former first lady Barbara Bush said there had been "enough Bushes" in the White House.

On Friday night here, the family matriarch declared -- lest there be any doubt -- that she had changed her mind.

Barbara Bush: ‘I changed my mind’ about Bush dynasty - The Washington Post
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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The real question is did the American people change their minds?
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I personally agree with her initial statement. I won't vote for anyone named Bush for president again.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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I do not agree at all that is the reason Clinton beat Bush (a one-termer) in '92. GH Bush was considered a shoe-in after the first Gulf War. CW was that nobody could beat him. Then there was a recession and things changed. People started noticing that GH was really out of touch with the average citizen, i.e., the GH Bush 'amazement at price scanner grocery check-out' out issue. Then he kept glancing at his watch in a debate like he had better places to be. Clinton/Gore started gaining momentum late in the game and Bush could not keep up. People vote based on their wallets and their wallet size was shrinking. Suddenly young energetic guys focused on the economy looked a lot better than a tired older out of touch guy.
Ok, maybe some of that was a factor. But, after 8 years as VP, and 4 as president, people were ready for a change. Thats the way politics works sometimes. If you look at Obama, he has had an awful lot of luck in his 2 wins. The fact that he beat Hillary is a significant indicator that people don't really want her as president. I think the media has it all wrong.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Guamanians, More Dems voted for (drum roll, please) Hillary Clinton than Obama in 2008. Obama won the majority of delegates, but lost the popular primary vote. I guess most Dems wanted her as president, per your 2nd to last sentence's logic.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:38 PM
 
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Guamanians, More Dems voted for (drum roll, please) Hillary Clinton than Obama in 2008. Obama won the majority of delegates, but lost the popular primary vote. I guess most Dems wanted her as president, per your 2nd to last sentence's logic.
well I'd have to look at which states they each won. Hillary knows the rules... I don't think she cares about winning the popular vote. I wonder who Monica Lewinsky is going to endorse?
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I personally agree with her initial statement. I won't vote for anyone named Bush for president again.
i agree with her first statement as well, but I can't go so far as to say I won't vote for a Bush. I would vote for Jeb if I had to choose between him and Hillary. Most Republicans and a lot fo true independants would, there are some, of course that would not. I will not support him in the primaries, that I know.
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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i agree with her first statement as well, but I can't go so far as to say I won't vote for a Bush. I would vote for Jeb if I had to choose between him and Hillary. Most Republicans and a lot fo true independants would, there are some, of course that would not. I will not support him in the primaries, that I know.
If you don't mind me asking, why not? He seems like a reasonable conservative choice.
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Ok, maybe some of that was a factor. But, after 8 years as VP, and 4 as president, people were ready for a change. Thats the way politics works sometimes. If you look at Obama, he has had an awful lot of luck in his 2 wins. The fact that he beat Hillary is a significant indicator that people don't really want her as president. I think the media has it all wrong.

Getting us involved in a war that was not ours to fight, and read my lips, No more taxes(and then raising taxes) Lost Bush the Conservative Independent, silent majority.. They stayed home, or assumed Clinton(still in the days a conservative Democrat existed) was more conservative than HW Bush. Perot pulled some of them away.
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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Ok, maybe some of that was a factor. But, after 8 years as VP, and 4 as president, people were ready for a change. Thats the way politics works sometimes. If you look at Obama, he has had an awful lot of luck in his 2 wins. The fact that he beat Hillary is a significant indicator that people don't really want her as president. I think the media has it all wrong.
You'd be correct if the Democrats dumped Hillary the second Obama looked viable, but they didn't. That was a hard fought primary. They wanted Hillary; they just wanted Obama more.
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