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Old 01-17-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post
WW3???? that will happen if we do what the far left wants of not doing nothing to the dangers and threats of the world.


Since WW 2, the U.S. has prevented WW3 with our military presence around the world and not ignoring mayor threats.



If you want to complain about wars, just take a little history that in the last 100 years, most of the wars the U.S. has been involved has been under Democrat Presidents:

WW 1: President Wilson (Democrat)
WW 2: President FDR (Democrat)
Korean War: President Truman (Democrat)
Vietnam War: President LBJ (Democrat)



But I guess the Republicans are the war mongers because they take the extreme Islamic threat seriously and head on, instead of ignoring it and retreating like the far left in the democrat party wants and all they want to do is "talk".


If you think the extreme Islam is just a civil war over there, you have no clue what's going on........blowing up our buildings and killing thousands of Americans and beheading Americans is not a civil war, they have declared war on America and the rest of the world......if you want to just "TALK" about it and ignore the threat and think the solution is Obama's drones then we have a bigger problem.
Mr. Wilson's war lasted 18 months.
Mr. Roosevelt's lasted 3 years.
Mr. Truman's inherited war lasted 1 year. Korea, the only one he started, lasted 3 years.
Mr. Kennedy's war lasted 6 months before his assassination. Johnson's inherited war lasted another 6 years.
Mr. Nixon's war in Vietnam lasted another 5 years.
Mr Bush #1's wars lasted 30 days in Granada and about 6 months in Iraq, counting the buildup.
Mr. Bush #2's wars lasted 8 years.
Mr. Obama's wars, both inherited from Bush, lasted another 6 years.

if you are going to make an honest list, there it is. Of the 8 wars in the above list, war mongering happened in 7 of them. The only war conducted in our national self defense was WWII. Vietnam was the last war that was conventional in the traditional sense of one army opposing another.

I did not include the 20+ years the United States spent fighting the Phillipine guerrillas. That one started with Teddy Roosevelt and continued into the Hoover administration before it finally petered out.

We are now fighting another guerrilla war. Unlike any of the other guerrilla wars we have fought, this one is not restricted to one nation's territory, nor to one guerrilla opponent. The conflict began long before 9/11, and many other nations have suffered their own terrorist attacks.

We have gotten our revenge on those who planned, financed and put 9/11 into action. They are all either dead or now beyond our reach for the foreseeable future. As in all wars, some of the worst always escape.

There is no modern comparison to be made between the conflict that has engaged us in perpetual war ever since 2001, and there is no end in sight as yet as to when the conflict will stop. No one is ignoring the threat, but no one has a solution, either.

Do not expect our next President will have any answers. Do not elect the person who follows our next President to have any, either.

Most of all, do not expect Mitt Romney to have any answers or any plans about anything at all. God knows he has had plenty of time to formulate many plans on every troublesome aspect in modern American life, and has not come up with anything other than one to shelter his wealth and the wealth of his peers.

It would be bad enough if he was an empty suit, but the fact is he's a talking head propped on a suit that is stuffed with money. It such a monster qualifies as being your choice, that's your problem. Don't expect to use a phony war list to give him credentials, though… he's still a monster.

 
Old 01-17-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Spaten_Drinker View Post
Yeah it sucks to have someone who is actually qualified at running something want to help the country.
When will we ever learn? The Democrats and Republicans do not have the American people's best interest in mind. We all line up at campaign time Clapping like a bunch of trained seals thinking this or that candidate is the answer to our problems and things never change except for the worse. But Sheeple are easily deceived and controlled...
 
Old 01-17-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: SDL/PDX/RDU
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Originally Posted by banjomike View Post
Mr. Wilson's war lasted 18 months.
Mr. Roosevelt's lasted 3 years.
Mr. Truman's inherited war lasted 1 year. Korea, the only one he started, lasted 3 years.
Mr. Kennedy's war lasted 6 months before his assassination. Johnson's inherited war lasted another 6 years.
Mr. Nixon's war in Vietnam lasted another 5 years.
Mr Bush #1's wars lasted 30 days in Granada and about 6 months in Iraq, counting the buildup.
Mr. Bush #2's wars lasted 8 years.
Mr. Obama's wars, both inherited from Bush, lasted another 6 years.

if you are going to make an honest list, there it is. Of the 8 wars in the above list, war mongering happened in 7 of them. The only war conducted in our national self defense was WWII. Vietnam was the last war that was conventional in the traditional sense of one army opposing another.

I did not include the 20+ years the United States spent fighting the Phillipine guerrillas. That one started with Teddy Roosevelt and continued into the Hoover administration before it finally petered out.

We are now fighting another guerrilla war. Unlike any of the other guerrilla wars we have fought, this one is not restricted to one nation's territory, nor to one guerrilla opponent. The conflict began long before 9/11, and many other nations have suffered their own terrorist attacks.

We have gotten our revenge on those who planned, financed and put 9/11 into action. They are all either dead or now beyond our reach for the foreseeable future. As in all wars, some of the worst always escape.

There is no modern comparison to be made between the conflict that has engaged us in perpetual war ever since 2001, and there is no end in sight as yet as to when the conflict will stop. No one is ignoring the threat, but no one has a solution, either.

Do not expect our next President will have any answers. Do not elect the person who follows our next President to have any, either.

Most of all, do not expect Mitt Romney to have any answers or any plans about anything at all. God knows he has had plenty of time to formulate many plans on every troublesome aspect in modern American life, and has not come up with anything other than one to shelter his wealth and the wealth of his peers.

It would be bad enough if he was an empty suit, but the fact is he's a talking head propped on a suit that is stuffed with money. It such a monster qualifies as being your choice, that's your problem. Don't expect to use a phony war list to give him credentials, though… he's still a monster.
Superb post. Sadly it will be lost on the folks that need to grasp the concept the most.
 
Old 01-17-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by banjomike View Post
Mr. Wilson's war lasted 18 months.
Mr. Roosevelt's lasted 3 years.
Mr. Truman's inherited war lasted 1 year. Korea, the only one he started, lasted 3 years.
Mr. Kennedy's war lasted 6 months before his assassination. Johnson's inherited war lasted another 6 years.
Mr. Nixon's war in Vietnam lasted another 5 years.
Mr Bush #1's wars lasted 30 days in Granada and about 6 months in Iraq, counting the buildup.
Mr. Bush #2's wars lasted 8 years.
Mr. Obama's wars, both inherited from Bush, lasted another 6 years.

if you are going to make an honest list, there it is. Of the 8 wars in the above list, war mongering happened in 7 of them. The only war conducted in our national self defense was WWII. Vietnam was the last war that was conventional in the traditional sense of one army opposing another.

I did not include the 20+ years the United States spent fighting the Phillipine guerrillas. That one started with Teddy Roosevelt and continued into the Hoover administration before it finally petered out.

We are now fighting another guerrilla war. Unlike any of the other guerrilla wars we have fought, this one is not restricted to one nation's territory, nor to one guerrilla opponent. The conflict began long before 9/11, and many other nations have suffered their own terrorist attacks.

We have gotten our revenge on those who planned, financed and put 9/11 into action. They are all either dead or now beyond our reach for the foreseeable future. As in all wars, some of the worst always escape.

There is no modern comparison to be made between the conflict that has engaged us in perpetual war ever since 2001, and there is no end in sight as yet as to when the conflict will stop. No one is ignoring the threat, but no one has a solution, either.

Do not expect our next President will have any answers. Do not elect the person who follows our next President to have any, either.

Most of all, do not expect Mitt Romney to have any answers or any plans about anything at all. God knows he has had plenty of time to formulate many plans on every troublesome aspect in modern American life, and has not come up with anything other than one to shelter his wealth and the wealth of his peers.

It would be bad enough if he was an empty suit, but the fact is he's a talking head propped on a suit that is stuffed with money. It such a monster qualifies as being your choice, that's your problem. Don't expect to use a phony war list to give him credentials, though… he's still a monster.




Explain how WW 2 was in our national defense??? FDR was the one that pushed war with Japan by putting an embargo on Japan and moving the Pacific fleet from San Diego to Hawaii. There is a lot more history than the one they taught you in school.



and you expect Hillary Clinton to have any answers or you hold her to a double standard? she voted for the War that you have issues with.....is she a monster to you or just a political opportunist and a empty skirt?

the solution is simple destroy our enemies or make them quit.......unless you have another solution, that's our goal and if it takes 20 years, so be it.
 
Old 01-17-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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Mittens was good at that during the Vietnam era, despite demonstrating in support of both the war and the draft that manned it he conveniently avoided both.

Typical 'do as I say, not as I do' political putz.

Funny, do you hold Bill Clinton, Obama and Hillary to the same standards......they are all war hawks...or you hold the democrats to a different standard?



most people that avoided the draft and burned our flag and were spitting on our vets were from the liberal radical left....the same crowd that Obama comes from.
 
Old 01-19-2015, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee View Post
Let me tell you, its rather evident, that the corporates want Romney in to represent the Republicans, and it will happen, b/c they will back him and his campaign financially.....really stinks

Why don't Americans wake up.....?

He is and will be a puppet for them.....wake up America

People are sick of Obama, just like people were sick of Bush, and they know it, so, they're are lining up the players, and if they want Romney in, they will tarnish anyone else who runs, just like they did Herman Cain.
I think I heard Mitt's new campaign phrase will be, "Je suis 47%er"".
 
Old 01-19-2015, 06:37 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by MaseMan View Post
Yes. He's been basically running for president since about 2004.


Many people think so too....

Ted Cruz: Mitt Romney
 
Old 01-19-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Sounds like Romney is the William Jennings Bryan of the 21st Century.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
You are incorrect about our unemployment rate. It is realistically around 12%. The stock market has not reached a record high either. I ought to know as I lost a bundle when it crashed and my investments are still not up to where they were prior to that. Romney did not say that 47% of Americans want free stuff. He said that is the percentage that are on government programs which includes SS and many other things that aren't entitlement programs but were paid into by the taxpayer. It is the left that lives in a bubble and likes to spin things like you just did.
Nope, his numbers are correct and yours are basically wishful thinking.
 
Old 01-29-2015, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by Mistoftime View Post
When will we ever learn? The Democrats and Republicans do not have the American people's best interest in mind. We all line up at campaign time Clapping like a bunch of trained seals thinking this or that candidate is the answer to our problems and things never change except for the worse. But Sheeple are easily deceived and controlled...
Nice attitude you have there. I am guessing you do not bother to vote, right?
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