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Old 01-12-2015, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Well then I guess I am insane because I don't think his/her parents should be rewarded for bringing the kid here illegally by allowing them to remain here. Nor should they benefit from their parent's law breaking. Go home and attempt to come back legally. They shouldn't be treated any different than the process that legal immigrants go through.
It not about her parents; it's about her. She was brought here at 18-months-old and had no choice in the matter. How do you justify punishing her by sending her back to a country that she doesn't even have a memory of, for something that she had no choice in? That is indeed insanity in my view.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:32 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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It not about her parents; it's about her. She was brought here at 18-months-old and had no choice in the matter. How do you justify punishing her by sending her back to a country that she doesn't even have a memory of, for something that she had no choice in? That is indeed insanity in my view.
That's her parents' responsibility. She can blame her parents for that. Why should we take in everyone that wants to be here? Have you been to southern Calif? It's CROWDED enough. It doesn't need more people. Just because they're from a shi*hole country doesn't excuse them from making adult decisions about the fate of themselves and their children.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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It not about her parents; it's about her. She was brought here at 18-months-old and had no choice in the matter. How do you justify punishing her by sending her back to a country that she doesn't even have a memory of, for something that she had no choice in? That is indeed insanity in my view.
So you are pro Dream act ?
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Old 01-13-2015, 12:00 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Namecall much? Where am I being obtuse? Where am "playing the 'victim?'" You gave a quote, and I asked whom you were quoting. You know, when you're wrong it is a whole lot easier just to admit it than going through convoluted contortions to get out of it.

Does the same analysis apply to rising Dem stars Julian and Joaquin Castro, both Stanford college grads, and Harvard law grads? What do they have in common with "folks who daily bust their backs doing landscaping, cleaning hotel rooms or slaving in the fields?" Are they also therefore not real Latinos?
you could say that ANY mexican-American politician who attended Ivy League has to demonstrate their "Latino-ness " if they aspire to higher office. I think that they get "street cred" because their mother Rosie was a well known activist in San Antonio for decades. The Castro brothers have always embraced their Mexican heritage. Former Mayor Henry Cisneros also embraced his heritage. I once read an article where he said that he would NEVER live in an area where mex-American culture was not predominate. That's how strongly he felt shout being near his roots.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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It not about her parents; it's about her. She was brought here at 18-months-old and had no choice in the matter. How do you justify punishing her by sending her back to a country that she doesn't even have a memory of, for something that she had no choice in? That is indeed insanity in my view.
Yes it is about her parents. They are the ones who brought her here illegally. She should not benefit from their law breaking. Doesn't matter that she didn't have a choice. She is still here illegally. The law says that when someone like that reaches 18 they are then responsible for being here illegally themselves.

It is pure nonsense that she couldn't relate to her homeland. What culture and language do you think she was taught at home? It's not punishment for her to return to her true homeland and apply to come back legally. The insanity is allowing them to remain without going to through the legal channels. It is a big incentive for illegal aliens to bring their kids here illegally by rewarding them for doing so.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:17 AM
 
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you could say that ANY mexican-American politician who attended Ivy League has to demonstrate their "Latino-ness " if they aspire to higher office. I think that they get "street cred" because their mother Rosie was a well known activist in San Antonio for decades. The Castro brothers have always embraced their Mexican heritage. Former Mayor Henry Cisneros also embraced his heritage. I once read an article where he said that he would NEVER live in an area where mex-American culture was not predominate. That's how strongly he felt shout being near his roots.
I don't know of one Hispanic politician who isn't pro-amnesty. If you want to cling to your roots and expect your ethnic group to get a pass on our immigration laws then perhaps they should return to the country they so love.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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If Jeb and Mitt get in, Rubio doesnt stand a chance. He wont be able to raise enough money. Mitt and Jeb will monopolize all of the big donors, not to mention, their personal wealth doesnt hurt.
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Apparently nobody much cares for any of these guys anyway… especially Rubio, who trails behind even Huckabee in popularity!

The 2016 Field Is Crowded -- and Mostly Unpopular
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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Apparently nobody much cares for any of these guys anyway… especially Rubio, who trails behind even Huckabee in popularity!

The 2016 Field Is Crowded -- and Mostly Unpopular
It is incredible how someone could not have heard of some of these folks, actually down right scary. You dont have to be a political junkie like me, but damn, after all that happened in Wisconsin, how could you not have heard of Scott Walker?
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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^ Dunno whether it's a case of being 'unheard of', or they're simply not that well-liked?!
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