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Old 01-30-2015, 03:02 PM
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Location: Florida
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Except that the vast majority of Americans think after six years of Obama, the country is headed in the exact wrong direction.
No, roughly half.

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But since you're not going to admit that half the people in the United States think your priorities are completely corrupt, please keep trying to claim "ineffective" and "wrong direction" aren't contradictory. It is fun watching Obama-haters dance around trying to reconcile their self-contradictory nonsense.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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The economy stinks, we are still in never ending wars in the Middle East and you count that as best thing that has happened to American [politically] for a long time? You have the bar set so low snakes have no difficulty slithering over it.
The economy stinks for whom exactly? Because I'm not seeing it.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Romney just announced he will not run. That leaves it to Bush for the taking. A Clinton vs Bush matchup looks likely now.

NOOO that is so scary. I wonder if Mitt is bowing out because he realised that this country is so far gone that not even he can save it.............
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Romney did the right thing.....The Republican party needs NEW faces..............Jeb Bush is not the answer and I hope he doesn't get the nomination, Hillary will beat him.
I am not sure at all the voters in either party want more new faces in 2016. God knows there have been plenty of them since 2000. 2016 may very well turn out to be an election where familiarity becomes a deciding factor.

The problem seems to be the lack of familiar faces that meet any approval from the other side.
Would a new face like Ted Cruz ever be able to sell himself to a non-committed moderate outside of his base? Would Elizabeth Warren, another new face on the other side?
I doubt it.

About 47% of the voters are likely to vote for a Democrat, and about 45% are likely to vote for a Republican.
Capturing the shrinking voters that will make up the margin of victory is something neither party is concentrating on. Both are playing to the voters they will already get far too much.

The voters both need most are waiting to be convinced by either party which will give them the most of what they want, and it seems neither party knows what those voters want at all.

About the only thing I'm sure of is very few folks will be completely happy with the results that will follow the election.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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I'd rather have a RINO President who rubber stamps a conservative Congress than a liberal Congress which rubber stamps a progressive President.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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NOOO that is so scary. I wonder if Mitt is bowing out because he realised that this country is so far gone that not even he can save it.............
He couldn't save it with his bad policies anyway.
It's never about the individual, it's always about policy.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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Good, at least now we won't have to read any more of the negative and nasty remarks about Romney in here.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I just can't see a situation in which Bush will actually win. He's against gay marriage, which is an instant no-vote from me, and 5-10% of the voting population. This is what cost Romney the election in 2012 when he said he ran on a platform to ban gay marriage nationwide. Gay marriage is the #1 gateway issue of our time, for Americans. It's impossible for a presidential candidate to ever win again and be against gay marriage. Sorry conservatives, but it's true.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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NOOO that is so scary. I wonder if Mitt is bowing out because he realised that this country is so far gone that not even he can save it.............
Agreed. Neither Bush nor Clinton would be good for this country. Don't know why Romney is bowing out but it very well may be what you stated. I think it would be a mistake for him to run again anyway as he would just be butchered by the left as he was last time.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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I just can't see a situation in which Bush will actually win. He's against gay marriage, which is an instant no-vote from me, and 5-10% of the voting population. This is what cost Romney the election in 2012 when he said he ran on a platform to ban gay marriage nationwide. Gay marriage is the #1 gateway issue of our time, for Americans. It's impossible for a presidential candidate to ever win again and be against gay marriage. Sorry conservatives, but it's true.
Where is your proof of why Romney lost the last election? 5-10% controlled the entire election? Sorry, but no it isn't true. There are far more Americans opposed to gay marriage than there are those who are for it. You even citied the latter as only being 5-10% . I see math wasn't your strong point.
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