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View Poll Results: Which direction should we go.
Ron Paul 4 21.05%
Jeb Bush 3 15.79%
Ted Cruz 5 26.32%
Rand Paul 7 36.84%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-05-2015, 03:43 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Herman Cain would have been beaten like a rented mule.
It would have brought out the black vote even greater than it was.
Per capita, the last 2 presidential elections, blacks out voted whites.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It would have brought out the black vote even greater than it was.
Per capita, the last 2 presidential elections, blacks out voted whites.
Cain gave a speech he lifted from Pokémon and his economic plan was lifted from Simcity. Cain put on one of the best performance arts that had everyone in the GOP believe he was a real candidate.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Cain gave a speech he lifted from Pokémon and his economic plan was lifted from Simcity. Cain put on one of the best performance arts that had everyone in the GOP believe he was a real candidate.
No doubt. 9-9-9 Baby
Still the black turn out to vote, would have been even more incredible.
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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I do not know whether the op is serious about his indirect claim of Hitler being a marxist. I would really love to see such a strong thesis actually being backed up by historic evidence. If there's no evidence to prove the thesis, explain, you might even have a point. I think with a 99% probability it'll be absolutely pointless.
Generally, a fascist system is quite differing from a socialist system:
Socialists emphasize public ownership over the economy, while fascists support private ownership. Fascists, other than usual capitalists support state control over private ownership at least to a certain extent to protect employers for example from being overthrown by employees and to protect "the public order". So fascism is capitalism without freedom as opposed to socialism which is a different concept. Italy and Japan always called their fascist systems what they were (certainly not socialist) while Nazi Germany needed workers who would have otherwise supported communists, so they made their programme a bit more socialist-looking which did not change their final intentions and their support for several privatizations and their support for private property (the latter was a bit weakened during the war to finance it, in the first six "peaceful" years they strongly defended private property, in the case of a win they would have enslaved all people of races they did not like after the war, which is NOT compatible with the egalitarian concept of socialism). Sadly they had to call themselves "National Socialist", they were quite dishonest by using that term. Thank God the US under Roosevelt (and the USSR under Stalin ) defeated them.

on the topic: Jeb Bush would be a pro-government guy what the op is likely going to oppose. The Pauls may be libertarians, at least the elder one, but I don't know where Ted Cruz is standing, sounds to me more like a fascist anyway:
The Radical Christian Right and the War on Government | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Before Hitler, Socialistic Marxism was a big hit in intellectual settings.


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I do not know whether the op is serious about his indirect claim of Hitler being a marxist.

I said Hitler took on the Socilistic teachings of Marxism.
After WW-II, socialist crawled under a rock and relabeled their branding.
Just recently, have they pulled the masks off and admitted to their socialist goal. The same goals other Socialist, Stalin, Mussolini, Wilson and Hitler, had.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vji48Hejgzg
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I said Hitler took on the Socilistic teachings of Marxism.
After WW-II, socialist crawled under a rock and relabeled their branding.
Just recently, have they pulled the masks off and admitted to their socialist goal. The same goals other Socialist, Stalin, Mussolini, Wilson and Hitler, had.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vji48Hejgzg
Really? That is what you think? Thanks for the laugh, but I don't think I could find socialists in this country that want to be the next Hitler.
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Oh my, there is no-one worth electing again !
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