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Old 02-15-2015, 01:33 AM
 
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By any measure, those 2 people have to be very extraordinary just to get on the ballot.
That's how it's supposed to be isn't it?

But once in a while a perfectly ordinary person got on the ballot and was even elected. All because he has a famous last name.

And now his brother wants to do the same.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I honestly don't remember. All I remember was Santorum really won not Romney because Iowans apparently can't count a very small number of votes a third grader could have counted meaning Santorum was robbed of the momentum factor. In the primaries I didn't support Cain, Romney or Santorum.
I often wonder about people in Iowa since we Pennsylvania threw the bum out on his ear

Come to think of it, how much does Iowa really represent America as far as diversity? Is this why the republicans depend on it so much?
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I often wonder about people in Iowa since we Pennsylvania threw the bum out on his ear

Come to think of it, how much does Iowa really represent America as far as diversity? Is this why the republicans depend on it so much?
Iowa is teetering on the razor edge of becoming immaterial to either party as a predictor. When the hopefuls quit bothering to show up, just to undergo a bunch of work and get nothing but nonsense in return, Iowa's early importance will fade to nothingness.

Good question about their diversity, simetime. I think it's apparent that Iowans still think they are in the 20th century, back in the good ol' days when everyone was white, male, and Christian.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:07 AM
 
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In a nation of over 330 million people, less than a dozen of them become nominees for the Presidency. Most of those nominees have no chance at all of ever winning, so, in essence, the race boils down to only 2 people.

By any measure, those 2 people have to be very extraordinary just to get on the ballot.

Rightly so. The presidency of the United States of America is an extraordinary job that always places extraordinary demands on the person who wins.
That is a good point and let me add one more point to you very good short OP. The Majority of people want a President to actually get his hands dirty and be a leader. We have found out with Obama ,that super educated and super like about personality does not get things done.

Walker appeal to the masses , because he has a calm demeanor and get done even if people try to force you out of the Gov. Office.
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Old 02-20-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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Yep. I like the guy, too. Not completely sold, but I've been watching him since the union/academe/students trashed Wisconsin's beautiful capital. We'll see if he blooms or withers.
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That is a good point and let me add one more point to you very good short OP. The Majority of people want a President to actually get his hands dirty and be a leader. We have found out with Obama ,that super educated and super like about personality does not get things done.

Walker appeal to the masses , because he has a calm demeanor and get done even if people try to force you out of the Gov. Office.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Iowa is teetering on the razor edge of becoming immaterial to either party as a predictor. When the hopefuls quit bothering to show up, just to undergo a bunch of work and get nothing but nonsense in return, Iowa's early importance will fade to nothingness.

Good question about their diversity, simetime. I think it's apparent that Iowans still think they are in the 20th century, back in the good ol' days when everyone was white, male, and Christian.
Iowa was Barack Obama's launch-pad in 2008. And Iowans just elected Joni Ernst, who is decidedly not male.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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I'm down with a Scott Walker presidency.
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Old 02-20-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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A tribal entity has offered to cover half of the BB stadium in exchange for being allowed to build a casino as part of the complex.
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Old 02-22-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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My Dad did not have a college degree and he worked his way to be the Director of his organization. Half of the senior management in his company of his generation did not have college degrees.

And he will be the first to tell you that if he were working in that same organization today, he would not advanced past the desk clerk. Times were different then, he lived in a time when college grads weren't that common and many people didn't advance past high schools.

Yes, Truman didn't have a college degree and that was a long time ago. Truman probably didn't even know how to use a computer, heck he probably didn't know what a computer was. Does that mean that the shortcomings of yestergenerations are acceptable now? Hardly.

If you are to ask the populace if they will vote for a President who has no college degree, I think the vast majority will say he/she will have to be an extraordinary candidate for them to look past it.

And if you ask them if Scott Walker is that extraordinary candidate I'm sure the vast majority of them will chuckle and say No.

But hey, if he's the GOP's best hope then go for it!

My take: don't kid yourself, Jeb Bush is the party's candidate. All this sideshows are just noise, nothing more.
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Again, the college degree thing is a red herring. We had a 2 term Democratic mayor in Seattle, Greg Nickels, who did not have a college degree. Not 50 years ago, but only 5 years ago. There he was running a city that is the center of the 13th or so largest media market in the US, and no college degree. And the two major industries of the Seattle region are software and aereospace.

Much like Walker, he dropped out and intended to go back to finish, but had the politics bug and was always too busy working on campaigns to find the time. His lack of a degree was never an issue; most people in Seattle didn't even know about it. The difference between a Nickels and a Walker: Nickels had that magical 'D' behind his name.

This is a typical disingenuous red herring from liberals.
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Again, the college degree thing is a red herring. We had a 2 term Democratic mayor in Seattle, Greg Nickels, who did not have a college degree. Not 50 years ago, but only 5 years ago. There he was running a city that is the center of the 13th or so largest media market in the US, and no college degree. And the two major industries of the Seattle region are software and aereospace.

Much like Walker, he dropped out and intended to go back to finish, but had the politics bug and was always too busy working on campaigns to find the time. His lack of a degree was never an issue; most people in Seattle didn't even know about it. The difference between a Nickels and a Walker: Nickels had that magical 'D' behind his name.

This is a typical disingenuous red herring from liberals.
Is religion important?
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