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Old 02-07-2015, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I have been watching politics since the first time I was old enough to vote in 1971. The one thing I can tell you that is a sure thing, is there is no such thing as a sure thing. Who would have thought that an inexperienced first term senator from Illinois could have possibly beat out Hillary Clinton? Nobody thought in the beginning that Ronald Reagan had a chance against Jimmy Carter. Nobody thought that Bill Clinton could possibly beat GHW Bush. There are no absolutes in the insanity of politics.
We arent arguing absolutes though, we are arguing probability.
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Old 02-07-2015, 02:42 AM
 
Location: America - Still Land Of The Free
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Oh God, this again.

Did you not pay attention to this last election? And how the Republicans won in a blowout in many states? And how we now have a Republican-controlled senate because people weren't happy with the way the Democrat-controlled country was working out?

And there you go stereotyping and making yourself look like a fool. Did it ever occur to you that there are Hispanic and Black Republicans? If Ben Carson or Marco Rubio were to run, those "racist southern white christian men" would vote for them in a heartbeat. So your logic is flawed.

You know, maybe the 2014 elections should be a wake up call for the Democrats to not be so anti-American, anti-military, anti-Christian, pro-terrorism, anti-small business, anti-baby, anti-gun rights, pro-tax, pro-socialism, and race baiting. You know, two can play the "stereotyping game."

Ditto.
Ditto. (don't forget Ted Cruz)
Ditto.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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The Republicans run someone that isn't batcrap crazy they may have a chance of winning, NONE of the possibles at this stage fit that definition.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The only way the GOP does not win in 2016 is if it does not want to win.

Congress needs a scapegoat.

What the heck will become of Conservative Radio and TV if they can't blame everything that goes bump in the night, all over the world, on Liberals?

Will Fox have to resort to reminding their viewers they have an obligation to support the ( Republican) president, no matter what, as they did during Bush's second term?

Regardless of who wins or holds the majority, the U.S. is NOT going to :

Round up the millions of undocumented and deport them,

Make any meaningful dent in welfare,

Repeal ACA without an alternative,

Mess with Senior entitlements,

Amend the Constitution to eliminate the rights of anchor babies, forbid abortion, make SSM illegal at a state level, make English the official language, round up and deport Muslims, prevent international tourism

Cease to accept refugees,

Pull our nose out of other's people's business,

Reduce the number of H1B Visas,

Reduce corporate outsourcing,

Balance the budget, or

Reduce the Debt.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Democrats haven't won 3 straight Presidential elections in over 60 years so you shouldn't get your hopes and be devastated. If they do win another one, I'm okay as long as the repubs keep the Congress and keep them under control.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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try looking again, being democrat or republican has never won an election, it is the independents that always carry an election one way or the other and independents have always been fickle about who they elect.

if the independents could field a potus candidate, then the dems and the repubs would never have another potus again.

Nope. Not anymore. Demographics of America are changing and the white, older, male is becoming the minority and Republicans will follow in becoming a minority.

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Winning the independent vote also no longer appears to be as important as it once seemed. Romney led Obama among self-described independents, 50 percent to 45 percent. Thatís a turnaround from four years ago, when Obama won them, 52 percent to 44 percent.
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Exit polls find that a key to Obama's victory was winning 93 percent of African-Americans, 71 percent of Hispanics, and 73 percent of Asians. Mitt Romney took most of the white vote, which is 72 percent of the electorate. But it wasn't enough.
Election results 2012: Who won it for Obama? (+video) - CSMonitor.com
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: America - Still Land Of The Free
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LOL You're lying to yourself if you actually believe that after taking history and the relentless negative Right Wing rhetoric into account, that the GOP will win the female, Blacks, Hispanics, gays, poor, and non Christians, or even the youth vote?
College kids are not stupid. Obeyme may have 'courted' the youth, but MOST college kids that I know, voted Republican in 2012.

They saw what happened with the Left's lies from the 2008 elections.
College kids who work, saw more 'change' in their paychecks, than dollars.
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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What will happen in 2016 when the Republican party loses another Presidential election? They have disdain for Blacks, pro-choice, gays, Muslims, Hispanics, the poor, Atheist, Liberals, environmentalist, and every country other than Israel.
You are so out of touch with reality it's laughable - the consequences of low information and propaganda only. I guess all the many Republican blacks and Hispanics don't count. FOX news hired talented black and Hispanic journalists and an open gay reporter way before CNN and MSNBC ever did. Bush appointed more Blacks and Hispanic to higher positions in his cabinet than any Democrat before him.
Condoleesa Rice was not only Sec of Defense, but also Secretary of State.

But I guess if you are going to paint with such a broad ill-informed brush the same can go for Dems:

They won elections even though they have disdain for whites, Jews, Israelis, Christians, Christmas, guns, oil, fetuses, successful business people, rich people, anyone not on welfare, conservatives, religious people (except Muslims), the military, and anything made from non-recycled plastic.
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: America - Still Land Of The Free
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Nope. Not anymore. Demographics of America are changing and the white, older, male is becoming the minority and Republicans will follow in becoming a minority.
Don't forget, that the white, older male has children who more than likely
will follow in his father's footsteps in voting Republican.

Or in my case, the white, not so old female's Kids. (College age)
Both of mine are Proud Right Wingers, and wear a "Don't Tread On Me" sticker
proudly on their vehicle.
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Republican strategy will be to go negative on Clinton early and often. They will spend a billion or more on ads to smear her and, in the process, turn off moderate voters who will become even more disgusted with politics in America and decide not to vote at all. The Republican base will reliably turn out and vote in the Republican. If you can't win at the polls then keep your opponents away from the polls. It's a national version of what was tried with success in 2014. It just might work.
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