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Old 02-17-2015, 09:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't have any quibble on the expert's list, but I do not believe Walker is an establishment Republican.

The one objective that must be achieved in 2016 for the GOP is swinging more uncommitted and independent voters toward their candidate than Romney or McCain did. This issue will decide who wins, and wasn't even mentioned in the article. Turning out the base is much easier for both parties in a Presidential election year. Both parties have bases who are now committed enough to turn out in large numbers, but luring those who very seldom vote is now more important than ever, because Obama showed they will go vote if attracted by a candidate who has all the right stuff in appeal.

Obama is an exceptionally good campaigner, but he is an even better organizer and motivator for his base. You can be certain that he will put his powers to use on Hillary's behalf; she was a loyal soldier, and Obama will not forget that. Hillary also has another huge advantage in Bill Clinton, one of the most popular 20th century presidents ever.

Can the Republicans overcome all that? Maybe, but whoever they choose will have to have a lot of charm and skill to woo away the women, minorities, and the uncommitted voters to pull off a win. Their base simply is not large enough to make the difference any longer.


If Trey Gowdy and Rand Paul can put Hilary in her place so easily, she should be a buffet for Ted Cruz. No matter who has a hand on her ass.
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:58 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Ted Cruz has no more chance of becoming President or even winning the GOP nomination, than Snoopy.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Ted Cruz has no more chance of becoming President or even winning the GOP nomination, than Snoopy.
Right now I would elect Snoopy over our current president.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:08 AM
 
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I think Cruz can win in age real election. The problem is getting the nomination. They GOP establishment wants JEB bad.
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I would have some problems with Cruz and I do not think he can pull it off, but we shall see. In fact right now, I just d don't know what to think. One day I think one way, the next another, I guess I am a flip flopper just like some of the candidates.

I can only think of two candidates I support almost 100% right now and one will not get the bid and the other won't even run: 1 is S. Martinez and the other is Rubio.
I think, if Cruz is the debater he's touted to be, then that's when his star may rise. That's publicity he doesn't have to pay for.

Martinez doesn't run her state all that well. Second highest crime rate in the US, highest aggravated assaults in the nation, highest death rate from drugs in US (in her state more drug induced death than death from auto accidents), over-reliance on government aid and their credit rating went from stable to negative.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:12 AM
 
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Default Amazing!

This is not the first thread on Mr. Cruz. There seems to be a frenzy in Liberal circles to discredit and paint a picture. Liberals are in fear of Cruz, just as they are with Palin. Cruz in threat to establishment and anti Clinton.
There is those that would go out of their way to destroy a Career. You got to remember Cruz was a preacher first thus anther reason why.

The Advantage is Mr. Cruz is holding his office and people in his district approve of him!
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by banjomike View Post
I don't have any quibble on the expert's list, but I do not believe Walker is an establishment Republican.

The one objective that must be achieved in 2016 for the GOP is swinging more uncommitted and independent voters toward their candidate than Romney or McCain did. This issue will decide who wins, and wasn't even mentioned in the article. Turning out the base is much easier for both parties in a Presidential election year. Both parties have bases who are now committed enough to turn out in large numbers, but luring those who very seldom vote is now more important than ever, because Obama showed they will go vote if attracted by a candidate who has all the right stuff in appeal.

Obama is an exceptionally good campaigner, but he is an even better organizer and motivator for his base. You can be certain that he will put his powers to use on Hillary's behalf; she was a loyal soldier, and Obama will not forget that. Hillary also has another huge advantage in Bill Clinton, one of the most popular 20th century presidents ever.

Can the Republicans overcome all that? Maybe, but whoever they choose will have to have a lot of charm and skill to woo away the women, minorities, and the uncommitted voters to pull off a win. Their base simply is not large enough to make the difference any longer.
I think the one thing or two you are overlooking: 1-We didin't know much about this young, black man that was running for President and seemed to offer so much to everyone; we know about Hillary: 2-Hillary isn't Bill and is not all that well liked and as for Bill being one of the most popular 20th century Pres.that is true, buth ther were many: FDR, Kennedy and certainly Reagan.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I think, if Cruz is the debater he's touted to be, then that's when his star may rise. That's publicity he doesn't have to pay for.

That is what Progressives on both sides of the isle, fear.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think, if Cruz is the debater he's touted to be, then that's when his star may rise. That's publicity he doesn't have to pay for.

Martinez doesn't run her state all that well. Second highest crime rate in the US, highest aggravated assaults in the nation, highest death rate from drugs in US (in her state more drug induced death than death from auto accidents), over-reliance on government aid and their credit rating went from stable to negative.
Laura, I lived in NM for 7 years: most of what you are saying has more to do with the people who live in the state: she has little control over these things. The crime rate, and yes auto accident rate is awful; has been for generations: there are a lot of gangs in ABQ which is the only decent sized city in the state. Add to this, she is working or trying to work with a primarily Dem senate, though the house is slightly Republican. As for the government assistance the lack of education and the number of unwed moms has been very high for years.
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Old 02-18-2015, 09:40 AM
 
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If Trey Gowdy and Rand Paul can put Hilary in her place so easily, she should be a buffet for Ted Cruz. No matter who has a hand on her ass.

Another that thinks they have to verbally denigrate Hillary because they are scared of her.
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